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by Universal Plan B 06/14/2005, 4:41pm PDT |
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motherfuckerfoodeater wrote:
Okay, the rocket launcher story is funny, but I refuse to see the "lock on" thing as anything other than a feature (and one of the biggest factors in the game's all-around awesomeness.) I think that the fact that all the bad guys in most stealth-oriented games seem to all be either total potheads or recent concussion victims is kind of lame. Of course, in a lot of games they have to be, or you'd have to restart every five seconds. In Far Cry you get to be a total hard ass, so the tracking can be realistic. When the stealth meter is at zero, that just means they can't see or hear you right now. Obviously a mercernary is going to have a pretty good guess which direction you're moving in.
You know, I think I was wrong. My problem was that I not being enough of a total hard ass, as you say. I was tring to pick off a bunch of guys with the sniper rifle. I guess that's not how you should use it. The right way is to nail one or two dangerous dudes, like other snipers or guys with rockets. Then go all Rambo style and take out the rest with the assault rifle. And I bet without the "lock on" it would be much harder to prevent the player from doing various cheap tactics to break the game.
Never the less, the lock on and other parts of the stealth game caused some people not to like the game. Is it a flaw? For them it is. They want to play the game in a way that it isn't totally set up for -- more like MGS or Thief. But I can't blame them because the game sort of makes it seem like that would be a valid way to play. It's got a stealth meter, you know... But for one thing, the trigens are immune to stealth. You could say that they have hyper senses, or you can complain that they "cheat".
Far Cry had ambitious AI, and an ambitious AI is both exploitable and doesn't always react as players expect. Nobody complains about the creature AI in Doom 3, except to say that there isn't any. Far Cry had complexity, which paradoxically meant that flaws are easier to see. |
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Something Awful forum posters attempt SS2 love-in, encounter FABIO by Man in Gorilla Suit 06/13/2005, 1:41am PDT 
I have it on good authority that SA fags are worse at games than flabio. NT by Creexul :( 06/13/2005, 2:10am PDT 
I don't even remember writing half this stuff -_0 by FABIO 06/13/2005, 2:49am PDT 
Re: I don't even remember writing half this stuff -_0 by Universal Plan B 06/13/2005, 10:46am PDT 
Re: I don't even remember writing half this stuff -_0 by FABIO 06/13/2005, 12:22pm PDT 
All the proof you need that FABIO has a SS2 vendetta. by Arbit 06/13/2005, 6:22pm PDT 
Re: Arbit being gay by bombMexico 06/13/2005, 7:51pm PDT 
Congratulations on coming up to date with news from 2 years ago. by Arbit 06/13/2005, 8:56pm PDT 
you put me in my place by linking to another thread detailing how much SS2 sucks by bombMexico 06/14/2005, 3:53am PDT 
Why am I so hostile :'( by Arbit 06/15/2005, 12:15am PDT 
Re: Arbit being gay by FABIO 06/14/2005, 8:42pm PDT 
wow NT by FABIO 06/14/2005, 8:53pm PDT 
Influential? by Mischief Maker 06/13/2005, 4:19pm PDT 
This is way too fucking long by Universal Plan B 06/13/2005, 11:05pm PDT 
I'm pretty sure Morrowind took it's inspiration from Daggerfall. NT by Worm 06/14/2005, 12:25am PDT 
its omgomogmog I mean its SKY FALLING NT by Worm 06/14/2005, 12:26am PDT 
Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/14/2005, 8:26am PDT 
Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by Universal Plan B 06/14/2005, 10:46am PDT 
Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/14/2005, 11:32am PDT 
Secondly, I was able to shake enemies all the time. UPB just sucks. NT by Fussbett 06/14/2005, 1:42pm PDT 
Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by Universal Plan B 06/14/2005, 4:41pm PDT 
Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/15/2005, 7:29am PDT 
Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by Universal Plan B 06/15/2005, 2:23pm PDT 
Jedi Knight 2? by Voyons Donc 06/14/2005, 2:12pm PDT 
Re: Jedi Knight 2? by Universal Plan B 06/14/2005, 4:18pm PDT 
Re: Jedi Knight 2? by Voyons Donc 06/14/2005, 5:48pm PDT 
Re: This is way too fucking long by FABIO 06/14/2005, 9:30pm PDT 
Re: This is way too fucking long by Mischief Maker 06/14/2005, 9:57pm PDT 
Re: This is way too fucking long by Arbit 06/15/2005, 1:34am PDT 
Arbit needs to get laid NT by binkbot 06/15/2005, 2:55am PDT 
binkbot is acting up again. NT by binkbot maintenance guy (w wrench) 06/15/2005, 6:50am PDT 
Are you high, autistic, or just republican? by Mischief Maker 06/15/2005, 2:21pm PDT 
Re: Are you high, autistic, or just republican? by Arbit 06/15/2005, 4:05pm PDT 
Re: Are you high, autistic, or just republican? by FABIO 06/15/2005, 6:25pm PDT 
Re: Are you high, autistic, or just republican? by Arbit 06/15/2005, 8:39pm PDT 
Everyone just calm down. God, we can debate this like adults can't we? by bombMexico 06/15/2005, 10:22pm PDT 
you caught me! by Zseni 06/15/2005, 5:49pm PDT 
Re: you caught me! by Arbit 06/15/2005, 8:53pm PDT 
I get it, you're the devil's advocate around here, right? NT by new guy 06/15/2005, 8:36pm PDT 
No, he's just really passionate about his love/lust for crappy games/FABIO NT by Mischief Maker 06/15/2005, 11:32pm PDT 
Don't forget utter hatred of great games like us by Deus Ex, Freespace 2 06/16/2005, 3:06am PDT 
Re: Don't forget utter hatred of great games like us by Arbit 06/16/2005, 3:28pm PDT 
Re: Don't forget utter hatred of great games like us by Horace Goes Skiing 06/16/2005, 8:10pm PDT 
The obsession for me would explain the Zseni theory NT by FABIO 06/16/2005, 5:29pm PDT 
And still the world turns by Arbit 06/16/2005, 7:55pm PDT 
they made Freedom Force by bombMexico 06/13/2005, 8:13pm PDT 
I didn't have enough keys to bind all the functions: 0/10 NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 06/13/2005, 1:02pm PDT 
Could someone with a SA login post this for me? by Mischief Maker 06/13/2005, 4:22pm PDT 
Wouldn't be worth it. by Creexul :( 06/14/2005, 12:00am PDT 
Universal Plan B is annoying me in this thread by I need clarification 06/15/2005, 4:23pm PDT 
Re: Universal Plan B is annoying me in this thread by Universal Plan B 06/16/2005, 11:44am PDT 
Re: Universal Plan B is annoying me in this thread by Entropy Stew 06/16/2005, 1:37pm PDT 
jesus by FABIO 06/16/2005, 2:14pm PDT 
INC on games by Fussbett 06/18/2005, 8:51pm PDT 
I'm bumping this thread! by Ice Cream Jonsey 09/13/2007, 3:02am PDT 
Did I mention I tried the demo? if so it's up there somewhere NT by Grumah 09/13/2007, 12:39pm PDT 
I forgot how gay and humorless something awful readers were until this was bumpe by Jhoh Clbbl O_____O 09/13/2007, 8:09pm PDT 
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