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Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by Universal Plan B 06/14/2005, 4:41pm PDT
motherfuckerfoodeater wrote:

Okay, the rocket launcher story is funny, but I refuse to see the "lock on" thing as anything other than a feature (and one of the biggest factors in the game's all-around awesomeness.) I think that the fact that all the bad guys in most stealth-oriented games seem to all be either total potheads or recent concussion victims is kind of lame. Of course, in a lot of games they have to be, or you'd have to restart every five seconds. In Far Cry you get to be a total hard ass, so the tracking can be realistic. When the stealth meter is at zero, that just means they can't see or hear you right now. Obviously a mercernary is going to have a pretty good guess which direction you're moving in.

You know, I think I was wrong. My problem was that I not being enough of a total hard ass, as you say. I was tring to pick off a bunch of guys with the sniper rifle. I guess that's not how you should use it. The right way is to nail one or two dangerous dudes, like other snipers or guys with rockets. Then go all Rambo style and take out the rest with the assault rifle. And I bet without the "lock on" it would be much harder to prevent the player from doing various cheap tactics to break the game.

Never the less, the lock on and other parts of the stealth game caused some people not to like the game. Is it a flaw? For them it is. They want to play the game in a way that it isn't totally set up for -- more like MGS or Thief. But I can't blame them because the game sort of makes it seem like that would be a valid way to play. It's got a stealth meter, you know... But for one thing, the trigens are immune to stealth. You could say that they have hyper senses, or you can complain that they "cheat".

Far Cry had ambitious AI, and an ambitious AI is both exploitable and doesn't always react as players expect. Nobody complains about the creature AI in Doom 3, except to say that there isn't any. Far Cry had complexity, which paradoxically meant that flaws are easier to see.
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Something Awful forum posters attempt SS2 love-in, encounter FABIO by Man in Gorilla Suit 06/13/2005, 1:41am PDT NEW
    I have it on good authority that SA fags are worse at games than flabio. NT by Creexul :( 06/13/2005, 2:10am PDT NEW
    I don't even remember writing half this stuff -_0 by FABIO 06/13/2005, 2:49am PDT NEW
        Re: I don't even remember writing half this stuff -_0 by Universal Plan B 06/13/2005, 10:46am PDT NEW
            Re: I don't even remember writing half this stuff -_0 by FABIO 06/13/2005, 12:22pm PDT NEW
                All the proof you need that FABIO has a SS2 vendetta. by Arbit 06/13/2005, 6:22pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Arbit being gay by bombMexico 06/13/2005, 7:51pm PDT NEW
                        Congratulations on coming up to date with news from 2 years ago. by Arbit 06/13/2005, 8:56pm PDT NEW
                            you put me in my place by linking to another thread detailing how much SS2 sucks by bombMexico 06/14/2005, 3:53am PDT NEW
                                Why am I so hostile :'( by Arbit 06/15/2005, 12:15am PDT NEW
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                    I'm pretty sure Morrowind took it's inspiration from Daggerfall. NT by Worm 06/14/2005, 12:25am PDT NEW
                        its omgomogmog I mean its SKY FALLING NT by Worm 06/14/2005, 12:26am PDT NEW
                    Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/14/2005, 8:26am PDT NEW
                        Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by Universal Plan B 06/14/2005, 10:46am PDT NEW
                            Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/14/2005, 11:32am PDT NEW
                                Secondly, I was able to shake enemies all the time. UPB just sucks. NT by Fussbett 06/14/2005, 1:42pm PDT NEW
                                Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by Universal Plan B 06/14/2005, 4:41pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/15/2005, 7:29am PDT NEW
                                        Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by Universal Plan B 06/15/2005, 2:23pm PDT NEW
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                                            Everyone just calm down. God, we can debate this like adults can't we? by bombMexico 06/15/2005, 10:22pm PDT NEW
                                you caught me! by Zseni 06/15/2005, 5:49pm PDT NEW
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                            I get it, you're the devil's advocate around here, right? NT by new guy 06/15/2005, 8:36pm PDT NEW
                                No, he's just really passionate about his love/lust for crappy games/FABIO NT by Mischief Maker 06/15/2005, 11:32pm PDT NEW
                                    Don't forget utter hatred of great games like us by Deus Ex, Freespace 2 06/16/2005, 3:06am PDT NEW
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                                    The obsession for me would explain the Zseni theory NT by FABIO 06/16/2005, 5:29pm PDT NEW
                                        And still the world turns by Arbit 06/16/2005, 7:55pm PDT NEW
        they made Freedom Force by bombMexico 06/13/2005, 8:13pm PDT NEW
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        Wouldn't be worth it. by Creexul :( 06/14/2005, 12:00am PDT NEW
    Universal Plan B is annoying me in this thread by I need clarification 06/15/2005, 4:23pm PDT NEW
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