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Re: I don't even remember writing half this stuff -_0 by FABIO 06/13/2005, 12:22pm PDT
Universal Plan B wrote:

FABIO wrote:

For some reason, most of these recent types of replies have been about, of all things, the crystal shard. Was it just some fluke that it was totally useless in my game? The thing barely did more damage than the laser sword to organic targets (I even jacked my exotic weapon skill up to 4), and hardly any damage to metallic targets. I just jacked up my strength and the wrench was more than enough for most of the game, for free.
I thought the crystal shard was pretty useless. But it was the entry level weapon in the exotic chain, while the laser sword was as some high level in the energy chain. The energy chain apart from the laser sword was shit. The other weapons in the exotic chain were really useful in the Many if you saved up all your worms from day 1.


I found the other exotic weapons to be supremely useless. The only weapon I got the viral launcher to work on in aenid mode was spiders, which you didn't need a powerful weapon for. On human mode the damn thing just killed me every time I pulled the trigger. I didn't spend points to get my exotic up to 5 so I never got to use the worm launcher. How much better could it have been than the assault rifle with anti-personel round?

I think it was a really good game in its time. It doesn't hold up as well as some people claim. Back this winter I was saving up for a new video card and decided to play some old games for a month. SS2 wasn't as good as I remembered. Baldur's Gate and PS:Torment were still awesome.


I play it about 6 months after it came out. I thought the same of it then as I do now (great atmosphere until it wears out after 1-2 hours, then you realize it was masking a clunky game with retarded design decisions that get increasingly annoying as you go on).

Some of the things you hate I'm ok with. Respawning monsters -- so what? It doesn't feel unrealistic, and I never had one spawn right behind me. I think there is some game code to prevent them spawning if you're in the same room. It's only a problem in conjunction with the degrading weapons (not a bad idea but they break too fast), and it gives you a reason to more faster.



I was constantly having enemies spawn right behind me through doors to rooms I was just in (the worst was that corridor on engineering leading to the shuttle bay). It definately felt like they were teleporting in. A couple time I reentered a room and actually caught them materializing out of thin air in a flash of light. If they wanted spawning enemies they should have either just repopulated areas between loading zones or at least make sure enemies didn't spawn right next to you so it would at least seem like they wandered in from somewhere else.

How was degrading weapons a good idea in any form?


The "one step forward two steps back" objectives are no different than any other set of dumb game objectives. Skills arefine in concept but they went overboard and made too many things skill dependent.


The objectives were fine in SS1. SS2 should have been titled "Elevator operator maintenance man".





It was a good game that deserves it's "underground classic" status because it was influential in making the FPS a deeper game. Caltrops seems to prefer an uninspired "me too" game to one with original idea that doesn't reach perfection.



I'd say Deus Ex was more influential in that regard, unless the same people who made SS2 worked on DX, as always I'm too lazy for Woodward fact checking. If people are this obsessed with fawning over an old FPS/RPG game, why not make it DX, which still holds up today as fun.
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Something Awful forum posters attempt SS2 love-in, encounter FABIO by Man in Gorilla Suit 06/13/2005, 1:41am PDT NEW
    I have it on good authority that SA fags are worse at games than flabio. NT by Creexul :( 06/13/2005, 2:10am PDT NEW
    I don't even remember writing half this stuff -_0 by FABIO 06/13/2005, 2:49am PDT NEW
        Re: I don't even remember writing half this stuff -_0 by Universal Plan B 06/13/2005, 10:46am PDT NEW
            Re: I don't even remember writing half this stuff -_0 by FABIO 06/13/2005, 12:22pm PDT NEW
                All the proof you need that FABIO has a SS2 vendetta. by Arbit 06/13/2005, 6:22pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Arbit being gay by bombMexico 06/13/2005, 7:51pm PDT NEW
                        Congratulations on coming up to date with news from 2 years ago. by Arbit 06/13/2005, 8:56pm PDT NEW
                            you put me in my place by linking to another thread detailing how much SS2 sucks by bombMexico 06/14/2005, 3:53am PDT NEW
                                Why am I so hostile :'( by Arbit 06/15/2005, 12:15am PDT NEW
                        Re: Arbit being gay by FABIO 06/14/2005, 8:42pm PDT NEW
                    wow NT by FABIO 06/14/2005, 8:53pm PDT NEW
            Influential? by Mischief Maker 06/13/2005, 4:19pm PDT NEW
                This is way too fucking long by Universal Plan B 06/13/2005, 11:05pm PDT NEW
                    I'm pretty sure Morrowind took it's inspiration from Daggerfall. NT by Worm 06/14/2005, 12:25am PDT NEW
                        its omgomogmog I mean its SKY FALLING NT by Worm 06/14/2005, 12:26am PDT NEW
                    Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/14/2005, 8:26am PDT NEW
                        Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by Universal Plan B 06/14/2005, 10:46am PDT NEW
                            Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/14/2005, 11:32am PDT NEW
                                Secondly, I was able to shake enemies all the time. UPB just sucks. NT by Fussbett 06/14/2005, 1:42pm PDT NEW
                                Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by Universal Plan B 06/14/2005, 4:41pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/15/2005, 7:29am PDT NEW
                                        Re: Far Cry had flaws that made people hate it? by Universal Plan B 06/15/2005, 2:23pm PDT NEW
                    Jedi Knight 2? by Voyons Donc 06/14/2005, 2:12pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Jedi Knight 2? by Universal Plan B 06/14/2005, 4:18pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Jedi Knight 2? by Voyons Donc 06/14/2005, 5:48pm PDT NEW
                    Re: This is way too fucking long by FABIO 06/14/2005, 9:30pm PDT NEW
                    Re: This is way too fucking long by Mischief Maker 06/14/2005, 9:57pm PDT NEW
                        Re: This is way too fucking long by Arbit 06/15/2005, 1:34am PDT NEW
                            Arbit needs to get laid NT by binkbot 06/15/2005, 2:55am PDT NEW
                                binkbot is acting up again. NT by binkbot maintenance guy (w wrench) 06/15/2005, 6:50am PDT NEW
                            Are you high, autistic, or just republican? by Mischief Maker 06/15/2005, 2:21pm PDT NEW
                                Re: Are you high, autistic, or just republican? by Arbit 06/15/2005, 4:05pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: Are you high, autistic, or just republican? by FABIO 06/15/2005, 6:25pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: Are you high, autistic, or just republican? by Arbit 06/15/2005, 8:39pm PDT NEW
                                            Everyone just calm down. God, we can debate this like adults can't we? by bombMexico 06/15/2005, 10:22pm PDT NEW
                                you caught me! by Zseni 06/15/2005, 5:49pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: you caught me! by Arbit 06/15/2005, 8:53pm PDT NEW
                            I get it, you're the devil's advocate around here, right? NT by new guy 06/15/2005, 8:36pm PDT NEW
                                No, he's just really passionate about his love/lust for crappy games/FABIO NT by Mischief Maker 06/15/2005, 11:32pm PDT NEW
                                    Don't forget utter hatred of great games like us by Deus Ex, Freespace 2 06/16/2005, 3:06am PDT NEW
                                        Re: Don't forget utter hatred of great games like us by Arbit 06/16/2005, 3:28pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: Don't forget utter hatred of great games like us by Horace Goes Skiing 06/16/2005, 8:10pm PDT NEW
                                    The obsession for me would explain the Zseni theory NT by FABIO 06/16/2005, 5:29pm PDT NEW
                                        And still the world turns by Arbit 06/16/2005, 7:55pm PDT NEW
        they made Freedom Force by bombMexico 06/13/2005, 8:13pm PDT NEW
    I didn't have enough keys to bind all the functions: 0/10 NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 06/13/2005, 1:02pm PDT NEW
    Could someone with a SA login post this for me? by Mischief Maker 06/13/2005, 4:22pm PDT NEW
        Wouldn't be worth it. by Creexul :( 06/14/2005, 12:00am PDT NEW
    Universal Plan B is annoying me in this thread by I need clarification 06/15/2005, 4:23pm PDT NEW
        Re: Universal Plan B is annoying me in this thread by Universal Plan B 06/16/2005, 11:44am PDT NEW
            Re: Universal Plan B is annoying me in this thread by Entropy Stew 06/16/2005, 1:37pm PDT NEW
            jesus by FABIO 06/16/2005, 2:14pm PDT NEW
        INC on games by Fussbett 06/18/2005, 8:51pm PDT NEW
    I'm bumping this thread! by Ice Cream Jonsey 09/13/2007, 3:02am PDT NEW
        Did I mention I tried the demo? if so it's up there somewhere NT by Grumah 09/13/2007, 12:39pm PDT NEW
    I forgot how gay and humorless something awful readers were until this was bumpe by Jhoh Clbbl O_____O 09/13/2007, 8:09pm PDT NEW
 
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