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by Jerry Whorebach 04/28/2007, 9:11am PDT |
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Zseni wrote:
You're just completely insane. You're more autistic than Creexul. You seriously just proposed that all the people who are not interested in power can band together, decide on one most important mission, and then go after the guys with power, nukes, and impenitent souls. You called this very same idea insane when RoL was positing it as People With Handguns versus Armed SWAT Teams.
Farmers in ancient china or wherever were not permitted to own swords. So they devised the deadliest form of combat known to man: The Martial Arts. I figure twenty, twenty-five years between the time we launch our nukes into the sun like Superman IV and someone starts throwing chi missiles like Super Saiyan Trunks off Dragon Ball Z *strokes chin*
Or maybe I see disarming everyone else as being secondary to disarming ourselves; and that when it does happen, it will be because of their own enlightened self-interest rather than some kind of unarmed Omaha Beach.
Zseni wrote:
Meanwhile, you just can't even cope with the idea that some of these same people could seriously be that different from you. Worse, people will have goals and desires which not only run contrary to your preferences, they run contrary to your self-interest - this concept isn't even on your map. It's part of the reason we get into having governments in the first place.
You've got me, I do think the majority of human interests are more-or-less compatible. We're always going to have motherfuckers trying to ice skate uphill, but there's probably a better way of dealing with them than pointing guns at each other.
Zseni wrote:
You're seriously like a high school kid who's all "but... if everyone is NICE to each other, we wouldn't need governments at all!" But that kid didn't write his mom a check for making his sammiches in the AM, and he's not paying rent.
I don't pay my rent, the tax payers do. How does that fit into your paradigm? |
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Jack to Bill Gates: please stop developing Counter-Strike, Lost Vikings by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/18/2007, 8:18pm PDT 
Caltrops Fun Fax are the 9/11 of deliberately misleading statements. by Jack Thompson 04/18/2007, 9:05pm PDT 
What do people make of this man? I'm at a loss. Please crack a joke. NT by Quentin Beck 04/18/2007, 11:41pm PDT 
HE WEARS A *SUIT AND TIE* HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NT by Grumah 04/19/2007, 6:11pm PDT 
Re: Caltrops Fun Fax are the 9/11 of deliberately misleading statements. by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/19/2007, 12:19am PDT 
Re: Caltrops Fun Fax are the 9/11 of deliberately misleading statements. by I need clarification 04/19/2007, 12:59am PDT 
Re: Caltrops Fun Fax are the 9/11 of deliberately misleading statements. by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/19/2007, 1:36am PDT 
Re: Caltrops Fun Fax are the 9/11 of deliberately misleading statements. by Jhoh Cable o_O 04/19/2007, 3:03am PDT 
Re: Caltrops Fun Fax are the 9/11 of deliberately misleading statements. by I need clarification 04/19/2007, 5:19pm PDT 
The plane hit the tourbus while she was sleeping in it, after Diary of a Madman. by a Liberal Academic 04/19/2007, 11:09pm PDT 
What happened to Janeanendsfd Garaflfor then? by Jhoh Cable o_O 04/20/2007, 8:57am PDT 
Thats Randy Rhodes :( NT by Grumah 04/23/2007, 4:51am PDT 
Re: Jack to Bill Gates: please stop developing Counter-Strike, Lost Vikings by laudablepuss 04/19/2007, 2:24am PDT 
I think we've all learned a valuable lesson about gun control by Mischief Maker 04/19/2007, 9:53am PDT 
Re: I think we've all learned a valuable lesson about gun control by laudablepuss 04/19/2007, 2:16pm PDT 
Re: I think we've all learned a valuable lesson about gun control by Jhoh Cable o_O 04/19/2007, 5:03pm PDT 
Son, let me explain. by a Liberal Academic 04/19/2007, 7:16pm PDT 
yeah, it's great that people who have been committed can buy NT by a gun 04/19/2007, 8:01pm PDT 
You tell 'em kid! by a Liberal Academic 04/19/2007, 8:46pm PDT 
You've gotta admit... by Mischief Maker 04/19/2007, 8:44pm PDT 
Re: You've gotta admit... by Zseni (shoots with Mother on Sats.) 04/19/2007, 10:25pm PDT 
This is a pretty damning indictment of moral hypocrisy. Let's ban that and guns. by Jerry Whorebach 04/19/2007, 11:54pm PDT 
Re: This is a pretty damning indictment of moral hypocrisy. Let's ban that and g by Zseni (shoots with Mother on Sats.) 04/20/2007, 6:24am PDT 
Honchoversy by Ray of Light 04/20/2007, 9:17pm PDT 
"[T]he idle monied class amuse themselves by surveilling everyone else..." NT by Is about where you lost me. --JW 04/21/2007, 1:54am PDT 
I want you back! by Ray of Light 04/21/2007, 5:28am PDT 
Re: I want you back! by Mischief Maker 04/21/2007, 5:46am PDT 
Re: I want you back! by Ray of Light 04/21/2007, 1:42pm PDT 
Iraq is probably the best argument against the idea that guns+civilians=freedom. by Jerry Whorebach 04/22/2007, 2:48am PDT 
Re: Iraq is probably the best argument against the idea that guns+civilians=free by Zseni 04/26/2007, 8:04pm PDT 
Re: Iraq is probably the best argument against the idea that guns+civilians=free by Mischief Maker 04/26/2007, 8:15pm PDT 
Forgive me, Majesty. I am a vulgar man! But I assure you, my music is not. NT by Zseni 04/26/2007, 8:48pm PDT 
You make lots of good points! Except the ones about guns, of course. by Jerry Whorebach 04/27/2007, 2:27am PDT 
Re: You make lots of good points! Except the ones about guns, of course. by Zseni 04/27/2007, 6:24am PDT 
Maybe it's time I grow up, buy a gun and go shooting with mom on weekends ^_^ NT by Jerry Whorebach 04/27/2007, 6:32am PDT 
All I'm saying is: do you think the only reason Putin has nukes is by Zseni 04/27/2007, 6:57am PDT 
Hmm, perhaps it's time me and Romeo Dallaire pulled our heads out of the sand. NT by Jerry Whorebach 04/27/2007, 7:26am PDT 
I'm starting to see where Zseni's coming from by Mischief Maker 04/27/2007, 8:14am PDT 
Oh honey, why do you fight the fist? by Zseni 04/27/2007, 4:41pm PDT 
Re: Oh honey, why do you fight the fist? by I need clarification 04/27/2007, 7:19pm PDT 
PS. I didn't mean to imply Palestine is a real country, or they are real people. NT by I need clarification 04/27/2007, 7:19pm PDT 
Re: Oh honey, why do you fight the fist? by Zseni 04/27/2007, 8:16pm PDT 
The lead singer of the Pussy Cat Dolls is half Filipino. by Quentin Beck 04/27/2007, 9:02pm PDT 
Re: Oh honey, why do you fight the fist? by Quentin Beck 04/27/2007, 8:53pm PDT 
I know suburban republican slumloards who would rather give their workers NT by groceries and crack money 04/27/2007, 11:06pm PDT 
Only a facist would try to impose peace and long life on everyone. by Jerry Whorebach 04/28/2007, 12:28am PDT 
Re: Only a facist would try to impose peace and long life on everyone. by Zseni 04/28/2007, 5:57am PDT 
Re: Only a facist would try to impose peace and long life on everyone. by Jhoh Cable o_O 04/28/2007, 6:39am PDT 
"The very particular and very American conditions..." smell like bullshit to me. by Jerry Whorebach 04/28/2007, 9:11am PDT 
Oh darling, why do you talk to the hand? by Mischief Maker 04/28/2007, 9:59am PDT 
Re: Oh darling, why do you talk to the hand? by Zseni 04/28/2007, 11:36am PDT 
THIS IS WORSE THAN READING A WIKI NT by Jhoh Cable o_O 04/28/2007, 7:19pm PDT 
Re: Oh darling, why do you talk to the hand? by Jerry Whorebach 04/28/2007, 9:24pm PDT 
Re: Oh darling, why do you talk to the hand? by Mischief Maker 04/29/2007, 7:51am PDT 
"She was a wonderful person" by words matter 10/15/2025, 9:42am PDT 
Re: "She was a wonderful person" by Mysterio 10/16/2025, 9:03am PDT 
I like Jerry's idea. by Worm 04/27/2007, 10:27pm PDT 
If only everyone had been packing that day, VTech deaths would have been stopped by Flavio 04/28/2007, 1:07am PDT 
Bullets can't stop EVIL SPIRITS. by Jerry Whorebach 04/30/2007, 3:48am PDT 
Crossbow, printing press, whatever. by Jerry Whorebach 04/22/2007, 2:34am PDT 
yeah, we lost the right to own, rape, and kill people NT by south carolina 04/22/2007, 8:26pm PDT 
Re: You've gotta admit... by Mischief Maker 04/20/2007, 10:10am PDT 
I WANT AN EXOSKELETON! by Zseni 04/20/2007, 7:57pm PDT 
Though if you REALLY want to rape-proof yourself... by Mischief Maker 04/20/2007, 8:29pm PDT 
Re: You've gotta admit... by I need clarification 04/20/2007, 9:30pm PDT 
Oh look, it's INC! NT by Zseni 04/20/2007, 9:39pm PDT 
Fuck I forgot my punchline by I need clarification 04/20/2007, 9:54pm PDT 
Re: Fuck I forgot my punchline by Furcifer 04/21/2007, 11:13am PDT 
Re: Son, let me explain. by I need clarification 04/19/2007, 8:57pm PDT 
Great points! by a Liberal Academic 04/19/2007, 9:01pm PDT 
Man libertarians get no love. NT by John Stossel 04/19/2007, 9:07pm PDT 
Even if I had the right to carry a gun (two guns?) I still wouldn't do it :( NT by So how do they help me? 04/19/2007, 9:18pm PDT 
We really need to just ban diving through the air in slow motion. NT by Worm 04/19/2007, 10:37pm PDT 
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