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Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by E. L. Koba 07/21/2003, 6:40pm PDT
The irony is that for all his talk about learning from other peoples past mistakes, he misses the fact that this debate has been going on for pretty much all of human history. Trying to find a good system to determine "who is in charge" and "what are the rules" of a group didn't start 10-20 years ago with the first BBS's. It's been going on ever since humans started organizing into groups larger then their immediate family.

Should it be the man who can beat all the other villages in a wrestling match? The son of the previous king? A consortium of those that control the means of production? The wisest priests in the land? The people who own the most stock in a company? The person with enough computer skills to code and run a forum? Why not let everyone decide? But then how do you avoid the tyranny of the majority? I think all these things have already been discussed ad nauseum by people much smarter than you or I (we know they are smart, because after all, they owned many negros). They came up with the Constitution, which seems to have worked out pretty well.

I've seen a few sites go through these same questions. The Tankers Forum has changed location a couple times. The first couple admins pulled a Chet, so finally a group of the hardest-core grognards formed a group that pays for the server and shares the admin duties. They rule the place with an iron fist, but usually don't ban people just because they don't like them. They are pretty harsh about enforcing the "where you post" rules. But they've survived at least 7-8 years total now.

Every site I can think of (including this one) is basicaly a dictatorship. The guy/group who owns the server can ban / delete / change anything they want with free reign. Yah occasionaly the peasantry will revolt against a really unpopular move and they change it, buy that's usually the exception. Some are benevolent dictatorships, but dictatorships nontheless.

Yah, I think it would be an interesting experiment to have an web community based on an actual constitution. Why not use the U.S. Constitution as a base? The Legislative would decide and set policy. The Executive would be the coders, admins, forum moderators, editors, etc. And the Judicial would judge of course. The actuall ownership of the site would somehow(?) belong to the whole group, so no one person could ruin it all by taking their ball and going home. The one main question, and the one I wish he had focused more on, is how do you decide "citizenship"?
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Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Entropy Stew 07/20/2003, 10:44pm PDT NEW
    Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by DrunkofKittens 07/21/2003, 12:14am PDT NEW
        Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by whydirt, fag prince of jazz 07/21/2003, 12:25am PDT NEW
            Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Fullofkittens 07/21/2003, 12:39am PDT NEW
            Should've read this before posting, but I had links and stuff . . . yeah. NT by Senor Barborito 07/21/2003, 2:17am PDT NEW
        Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by E. L. Koba 07/21/2003, 12:49am PDT NEW
            Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by laudablepuss 07/21/2003, 3:21pm PDT NEW
                Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by E. L. Koba 07/21/2003, 6:40pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by whydirt 07/21/2003, 6:48pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by E. L. Koba 07/21/2003, 7:49pm PDT NEW
        That guy was part of the original OMM community, dicklick by Senor Barborito 07/21/2003, 2:14am PDT NEW
            Re: That guy was part of the original OMM community, dicklick by Monty Cantsin 07/21/2003, 7:07pm PDT NEW
                Re: That guy was part of the original OMM community, dicklick by Hokie Mokie, the King of Jazz 07/21/2003, 8:26pm PDT NEW
                    We just found out yesterday, pretty much NT by Senor Barborito 07/21/2003, 11:11pm PDT NEW
                        Oh yeah, nice to see you NT by Senor Barborito 07/21/2003, 11:12pm PDT NEW
                    Wow, I brought both Hokie and Monty with that one.It's like I drew the Powerball by Entropy Stew 07/21/2003, 11:13pm PDT NEW
                        I wonder if they would like to join my Friendster network? HMM? NT by conflictNo 07/22/2003, 2:07am PDT NEW
        Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Entropy Stew 07/21/2003, 2:31am PDT NEW
        Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Bill Dungsroman 07/21/2003, 1:15pm PDT NEW
            Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Fullofkittens 07/21/2003, 7:24pm PDT NEW
                Damn. I guess I'm one of the idiots that forget to preview. :( NT by Fullofkittens 07/21/2003, 7:25pm PDT NEW
                Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Bill Dungsroman 07/21/2003, 7:55pm PDT NEW
    Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by whydirt 07/21/2003, 12:17am PDT NEW
        Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Lufteufel 07/21/2003, 7:03pm PDT NEW
            Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Entropy Stew 07/21/2003, 7:39pm PDT NEW
                Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Lufteufel 07/21/2003, 9:00pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Hokie Mokie, the King of Jazz 07/21/2003, 10:15pm PDT NEW
            Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Hokie Mokie, the King of Jazz 07/21/2003, 10:26pm PDT NEW
                Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Lufteufel 07/23/2003, 12:26am PDT NEW
                    Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Hokie Mokie, the King of Jazz 07/23/2003, 1:07pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Lufteufel 07/23/2003, 5:47pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Entropy Stew 07/23/2003, 6:32pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Fullofkittens 07/24/2003, 9:24am PDT NEW
            Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Monty Cantsin 07/22/2003, 7:07pm PDT NEW
                Re: Interesting Link: Group dynamics in online communities by Lufteufel 07/23/2003, 12:39am PDT NEW
                    Not the measurement of conjugate quantum attributes. by Chairman Mao 07/23/2003, 12:43am PDT NEW
                        Re: Not the measurement of conjugate quantum attributes. by Oscar Mayer Wilder 07/23/2003, 2:38am PDT NEW
                            UR GAY. NT by Chairman Mao 07/23/2003, 2:46am PDT NEW
                Nitpicking your example by Entropy Stew 07/23/2003, 6:40pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Nitpicking your example by Monty Cantsin 07/24/2003, 1:58am PDT NEW
                        I like cupcakes NT by Entropy Stew 07/24/2003, 2:14am PDT NEW
                        Personal Questions by Fussbett 07/24/2003, 4:25am PDT NEW
                            Re: Personal Questions by Monty Cantsin 07/24/2003, 6:09pm PDT NEW
 
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