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Re: Bloviate on, you shining star! by I need clarification 07/14/2003, 12:20pm PDT
Damocles wrote:

Besides, do you think judges are morons?

Actually, I believe he does. And of course this is the crux of what he believes to be the problem: anyone can bring a lawsuit, regardless of merit, against anyone else for any amount of money and for any reason. Judges are morons who allow the cases to proceed, and juries are too easily swayed by the tales of scalded laps or gunned-down little kids, etc.

I don't know what the current standard is for a case to pass muster with a judge, and in fact I'm not 100% sure it's in the judge's hand to decide whether a civil lawsuit can proceed. Either way, I have the feeling most judges, moronic or not, are inclined to allow any lawsuit that doesn't contain the word "Martians" in the text to at least be heard by a jury. Juries of course tend to be sympathetic to the victim. You can usually tell who the victim is, because they're the one who is sucking on a respirator, or busy being paralyzed from the waist down due to a stray bullet, or couldn't make it to court that day because the policy at the cemetary is no corpses can leave of their own accord during the day or non-full-moon night.

Another way to read this is that juries are expressing their frustrations at their inability to overcome powerful corporate and PAC lobbyists in Washington. It's one thing to say in the abstract you support the 2nd Amendment, it's quite another to see (what some would suggest are) the results of the flooding of America with handguns until, as was recently reported, there is nearly one gun for every citizen.

Are all jurors and judges idiots, are all corporate lawyers incompetent, or is there a more fundamental reason for these sort of settlements?

Anyway, L_K seems to have a hard-on for the small airline industry. As CEO of INC, Inc., I've eschewed the use of a private plane in favor of sitting in a cubicle all day, so this issue has remained below my radar (get it? Because they're planes and they... use... fuck off). But there are real-world consequences to the current lottery system of lawsuits. Ask BDR how many obstetricians are left in Nevada. Or Virginia. There are cases of doctors in high-risk practices (like delivering babies) who are fleeing states that have not enacted caps on lawsuit awards. Without the caps, the insurance rates skyrocket. In order to pay their premiums, the doctors are forced to double their caseload, leading to, you guessed it, a greater chance of error. It's hard to argue that an expectant mother should "assume some personal responsibility" for the fact her baby was not born as healthy as it could have been, but on the other hand will suing the doctor out of business for something he couldn't really do anything about help the next mother at all?

When it comes to these cases, L_K's position is a little more socialist than I think he'd be comfortable with, as placing a cap on physician lawsuits implies that we're forgoing an immediate payoff for a medical problem in favor of the community's need for competent and not over-worked healthcare professionals.
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Video games still bad. Movies and bullies A-OK. by Fussbett 07/09/2003, 4:19pm PDT NEW
    Re: Video games still bad. Movies and bullies A-OK. by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/09/2003, 4:52pm PDT NEW
        Stop! by I need clarification 07/09/2003, 6:34pm PDT NEW
            Edit! by Bill Dungsroman 07/11/2003, 11:44am PDT NEW
    Re: Video games still bad. Movies and bullies A-OK. by laudablepuss 07/09/2003, 5:54pm PDT NEW
        how about parents keeping a fully-stocked arsenal around the house? by FABIO 07/10/2003, 10:42am PDT NEW
            I think NOT owning a firearm should disqualify you from voting. Do your part. by Lizard_King 07/10/2003, 10:51am PDT NEW
                You are aware of a branch of government called the 'Judicial', are you not? by John 'Bryan' Adams 07/10/2003, 6:05pm PDT NEW
                    Rats! I was gonna say that. Instead, I'll say this: by I need clarification 07/10/2003, 10:26pm PDT NEW
                        or read my books! NT by John Grisham 07/10/2003, 10:33pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Rats! I was gonna say that. Instead, I'll say this: by Lizard_King 07/11/2003, 2:26pm PDT NEW
                            Dude, he's *SO* done with this post. NT by John 'Bryan' Adams 07/11/2003, 2:47pm PDT NEW
                                I liked the random "socialist medicine" bit myself. Lost Canadian, perchance? NT by Damocles 07/11/2003, 3:52pm PDT NEW
                                    Government medical program=socialist. by Lizard_King 07/12/2003, 2:32pm PDT NEW
                                        Trotsky and Stalin may hate each other, but both are still laughing at you by Damocles 07/14/2003, 12:02pm PDT NEW
                                            I like it when you make up things. It's funny. by Lizard_King 07/14/2003, 7:32pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: I like it when you make up things. It's funny. by Damocles 07/16/2003, 4:48am PDT NEW
                                                    Re: I like it when you make up things. It's funny. by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 9:17pm PDT NEW
                                                        Thank you Ayn Rand, you can sit down and shut the fuck up now. by John 'Bryan' Adams 07/16/2003, 9:48pm PDT NEW
                                                            Yes, much better look for you than trying to say I'm wrong. NT by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 10:08pm PDT NEW
                                                                I *did* say you were wrong. Idiot. NT by John 'Bryan' Adams 07/16/2003, 10:13pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Perhaps, but what you typed was "I am an angry fag" over and over. NT by Lizard_King 07/20/2003, 7:08pm PDT NEW
                                                                        ^^^ EVERYONE L@@K RIGHT HERE ^^^ by Lufteufel 07/20/2003, 7:53pm PDT NEW
                                                                            FUCK THAT WAS SO WORTH IT NT by Choson 07/20/2003, 7:55pm PDT NEW
                            This post is so OVER! It's so 1999, dude. by I need clarification 07/12/2003, 4:10pm PDT NEW
                                Re: This post is so OVER! It's so 1999, dude. by Lizard_King 07/12/2003, 8:35pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: This post is so OVER! It's so 1999, dude. by The Monopoly Guy 07/13/2003, 4:57am PDT NEW
                                        I see. by Lizard_King 07/13/2003, 2:44pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: I see. by Arbit 07/15/2003, 4:44pm PDT NEW
                                                She wanted me to do it. And the baby was asking for it. NT by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 2:15am PDT NEW
                    Re: You are aware of a branch of government called the 'Judicial', are you not? by Lizard_King 07/11/2003, 2:17pm PDT NEW
                        Your inability to make yourself clear is not my fucking problem.. by John \'Bryan\' Adams 07/11/2003, 2:51pm PDT NEW
                            Cat Fight! NT by Sildenafil 07/11/2003, 3:19pm PDT NEW
                                I fucking hate you. by Nixon 07/12/2003, 2:33pm PDT NEW
                                    Then I have done my Job. NT by Sildenafil 07/12/2003, 4:20pm PDT NEW
                                I know you. You're that waiter from Tchotchkes NT by Entropy Stew 07/12/2003, 6:16pm PDT NEW
                                    Better than Jennifer Aniston NT by Sildenafil 07/12/2003, 6:50pm PDT NEW
                                        Better how, exactly? NT by Lizard_King 07/12/2003, 8:22pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: Better how, exactly? by Sildenafil 07/12/2003, 9:55pm PDT NEW
                                                Might as well be. You're already taking it up the ass from everyone here NT by Entropy Stew 07/12/2003, 10:17pm PDT NEW
                            If INC could understand it, it IS your problem. -NT- by Lizard_King 07/12/2003, 2:30pm PDT NEW
                                I retracted nothing, fag. by John 'Bryan' Adams 07/16/2003, 1:41pm PDT NEW
                                    I'm sorry, so your criticism of the argument I didn't make still stands? by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 9:20pm PDT NEW
                                        In which I make a classy Lizard_King-stylin quip: by John \'Bryan\' Adams 07/16/2003, 9:50pm PDT NEW
                        Re: You are aware of a branch of government called the 'Judicial', are you not? by Damocles 07/11/2003, 4:01pm PDT NEW
                            Re: You are aware of a branch of government called the 'Judicial', are you not? by Lizard_King 07/12/2003, 2:29pm PDT NEW
                                Bloviate on, you shining star! by Damocles 07/14/2003, 11:54am PDT NEW
                                    Re: Bloviate on, you shining star! by I need clarification 07/14/2003, 12:20pm PDT NEW
                                        I...um...mostly agree. What the fuck are you up to? by Lizard_King 07/14/2003, 7:53pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: Bloviate on, you shining star! by Damocles 07/15/2003, 3:16pm PDT NEW
                                            One imperfect system for an even more imperfect one... by I need clarification 07/15/2003, 4:30pm PDT NEW
                                                Alright, now I'm really worried. But...yeah. NT by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 2:18am PDT NEW
                                                Re: One imperfect system for an even more imperfect one... by Damocles 07/16/2003, 4:29am PDT NEW
                                    That was positively Vaginatorian. Bravo! NT by John 'Bryan' Adams 07/14/2003, 1:09pm PDT NEW
                                        Stop uttering her name! by FoK 07/14/2003, 1:16pm PDT NEW
                                            Vaginator, Vaginator, Motherfucking Vaginator. NT by John 'Bryan' Adams 07/14/2003, 1:19pm PDT NEW
                                                Pussy. NT by Lizard_King 07/14/2003, 7:53pm PDT NEW
                                                    She'd slamdunk your ass in about 30 seconds. NT by John 'Bryan' Adams 07/14/2003, 9:03pm PDT NEW
                                                        actually, didn't L_K show up soon after Vag left? by whydirt, caltrops braintrust 07/15/2003, 4:43pm PDT NEW
                                                            Re: actually, didn't L_K show up soon after Vag left? by Chairman Mao 07/15/2003, 5:15pm PDT NEW
                                                                I am the real Chairman Mao NT by Chairman Mao 07/15/2003, 5:58pm PDT NEW
                                                                    No, *I* am the real Chairman Mao NT by Chairman Mao 07/15/2003, 5:58pm PDT NEW
                                                                        Precisely. NT by Chairman Mao 07/15/2003, 5:59pm PDT NEW
                                                                Re: actually, didn't L_K show up soon after Vag left? by whydirt, caltrops braintrust 07/15/2003, 9:18pm PDT NEW
                                    Keep at it, tiny dancer. by Lizard_King 07/14/2003, 7:48pm PDT NEW
                                        You have no idea what a leftist is, do you? by Damocles 07/15/2003, 3:19pm PDT NEW
                                            As usual, you should make your accusations at a fucking mirror. NT by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 2:19am PDT NEW
                                                I've heard better retorts on a playground NT by Damocles 07/16/2003, 4:50am PDT NEW
                                                    Perhaps you should stick to arguing there, then. NT by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 9:20pm PDT NEW
                            Re: You are aware of a branch of government called the 'Judicial', are you not? by Lizard_King 07/12/2003, 2:32pm PDT NEW
                                Sorry about the double post. Back button on mouse reacts poorly with forums. NT by Lizard_King 07/12/2003, 2:33pm PDT NEW
 
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