Robsuke wrote:

Universal Plan B wrote:

We don't want a cheat, we want to play games where the obstacles are difficult challenges to overcome, not annoying limitations to work around (or put up with). A game where gems have to be identified is not very believable but ok, but a game where the best method of identifying them is to find a unicorn to throw them at is ridiculous. Besides, nethack's cheats don't solve the problem that you have to read a 50 page manual (written by eric raymond for god's sake) and memorize 100 one letter commands before you can even begin to play. Nethack is a game for people who think that emacs or vi are great ways to write text.

Indeed. And the problem with people who think that emacs or vi suck and also hate nethack (usually they are the same crowd) are people who are scared of having to actually learn to use the software - they stick with software that they dont have to read manuals for so they can get to work quicker, but pay for it by having to work with less efficient software - and playing less variable games (with possibly great graphics, but for that there is video...)