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a hearty "fuck no" for chrono cross by FABIO 08/03/2003, 4:46pm PDT
Horrible horrible game. I thought the elemental and combat system was quirky fun at first, but the management of switching them over to different party members quickly becomes very time consuming and tedious. A few points for no random encounters, but that's it. The story starts out pretty bland and gets worse from there. About one-third of the way into the game it goes into the "shitty attempt at non-linearity and no plot" mode Damocles described. The game dissolves into a Pokemon game where you're supposed to give a shit about collecting all the 40 characters (pretty damn close to that number) even though you'll only need 2 in addition to the main character. Once non-linear mode is reached, all characters lose any personality and will say the exact same lines during the game regardless of which two you have in your party, the only difference being some of them will speak in kRaZy accents. The late game also has THE single most fucking convoluted plot and exposition I've ever seen in a game; Metal Gear Solid 2 is the only contender that comes close to matching it, and although MGS2 was more retarded, Chrono Cross wins out for sheer "WTF is going on?" obscurity. The pacing is so fucking horrible that they're reduced to trying to explain everything to you in 20 paragraphs of text offered by an NPC right before the final boss fight. The final boss fight is also gay. You can either have an unbelievably easy time killing him (he never does anyhting more than cast CC's equivilant to ICE3, FIRE3, etc) and get the worst non-ending ever (credits roll while cutscenes you've already seen in the game play in a black and white postage stamp sized window) or go for the "good" ending which is utterly fucking impossible to stumble on without a FAQ, and even then you'll be throwing your controller in frustration trying to impliment it.

They also take all the bad from Chronot Trigger and none of the good

CT: Time travel with different settings that affect each other along the timeline
CC: Two alternate universes with nearly cosmetic differences. Almost all the differences involve one key item being in one world and not the other, with no reason or clues given as to why that item is in one particular world over the other.

CT: Cool Sci-Fi theme. Cool gadgets. Flying around in the Epoch.
CC: Low tech carribean theme(???). Travelling around islands on a tiny overworld map in a friggin canoe.

CT: Mute main character that might have been cute at the time (I didnt like it though)
CC: Mute main character that gets downright annoying.

CT: Chrono Trigger was a great game!
CC: Chronot Tigger was a great game! This is an official sequel to CT, something Square's never done before! There are virtually no connections to the original CT aside from the occaisional name dropping.

If you hated the pro-environment theme of FF7, then stay the hell away from CC. Basically the message for the entire game is "humans do nothing but screw up nature, and will be the death of the planet".


I havent played any of the Saga games, so that might be a factor, but I can say that CC was easily the worst Square game I've ever played. I've played Secret of Evermore, I've played Mystic Quest, I played Xenogears, I've played Parasite Eve 2, none of them beat out Chrono Cross in terms of suckage.

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Note to Homeworld 2 box artist by FABIO 07/25/2003, 3:10am PDT NEW
    Un-Holy Shit! NT by Senor Barborito 07/25/2003, 7:26am PDT NEW
    Re: Note to Homeworld 2 box artist by laudablepuss 07/25/2003, 1:39pm PDT NEW
    notice: not a single spaceship (or even recognizable space) anywhere on cover by FABIO 07/25/2003, 3:32pm PDT NEW
        That chick with the fiberoptic combover is so hot, though! NT by laudablepuss 07/25/2003, 6:17pm PDT NEW
        Re: notice: not a single spaceship (or even recognizable space) anywhere on cover by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/25/2003, 6:41pm PDT NEW
            I'll bet my next paycheck by FABIO 07/25/2003, 10:16pm PDT NEW
                Re: I'll bet my next paycheck by Bill Dungsroman 07/26/2003, 10:11am PDT NEW
                    Re: I'll bet my next paycheck by Random Psycho 07/26/2003, 8:30pm PDT NEW
                        (Ed Norton impression): You're just a voice in my head! NT by Senor Barborito 07/26/2003, 8:40pm PDT NEW
                            (Brad Pitt impression): You're a voice in mine! NT by Random Psycho 07/26/2003, 8:41pm PDT NEW
                You owe me a dollah. by foogla 07/26/2003, 12:21pm PDT NEW
                Re: I'll bet my next paycheck by curst 07/26/2003, 12:39pm PDT NEW
                Fucker by Lizard_King 07/28/2003, 7:16pm PDT NEW
                    wasnt that bad by FABIO 07/30/2003, 6:54pm PDT NEW
                        Re: wasnt that bad by Lizard_King 08/02/2003, 12:51am PDT NEW
                            whoah! by FABIO 08/02/2003, 3:55am PDT NEW
                                Re: whoah! by Lizard_King 08/02/2003, 1:06pm PDT NEW
                                Focusing like a LASER on one sentence for a long hate-filled rant by Damocles 08/02/2003, 2:07pm PDT NEW
                                    Mock me, for I suck at quoting. RETRY by Damocles 08/02/2003, 2:11pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: Mock me, for I suck at quoting. RETRY by Entropy Stew 08/02/2003, 7:31pm PDT NEW
                                        FF6 overrated? by FABIO 08/03/2003, 1:55am PDT NEW
                                            Did you find the following to be solutions? by Lizard_King 08/03/2003, 11:41am PDT NEW
                                                Re: Did you find the following to be solutions? by FABIO 08/03/2003, 4:24pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: Did you find the following to be solutions? by Lizard_King 08/03/2003, 6:33pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: FF6 overrated? by Forensic 08/03/2003, 11:36pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: FF6 overrated? by Damocles 08/09/2003, 2:28am PDT NEW
                                                Re: FF6 overrated? by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 2:42am PDT NEW
                                                Re: FF6 overrated? by FABIO 08/10/2003, 1:08am PDT NEW
                                                    God, I need to play this again by Entropy Stew 08/11/2003, 8:29am PDT NEW
                                        Re: Mock me, for I suck at quoting. RETRY by Lizard_King 08/03/2003, 11:45am PDT NEW
                                            a hearty "fuck no" for chrono cross by FABIO 08/03/2003, 4:46pm PDT NEW
                                                Huh. by Lizard_King 08/03/2003, 6:38pm PDT NEW
                                                    Every Suikoden has that, and Suikoden II was a masterpiece by Damocles 08/09/2003, 2:37am PDT NEW
                                                        Missed this by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 2:46am PDT NEW
                                                            Suikoden II by FABIO 08/10/2003, 12:26am PDT NEW
                                                                Re: Suikoden II by Lizard_King 08/10/2003, 12:36am PDT NEW
                                                        Skies or Arcadia still Dreamcast only? Wanted to try that for years NT by FABIO 08/09/2003, 11:34pm PDT NEW
                                                            It's out for Gamecube by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 11:56pm PDT NEW
                                                                no gamecube either :( NT by FABIO 08/10/2003, 12:26am PDT NEW
                                                                    Yeah, I figured. NT by Lizard_King 08/10/2003, 12:39am PDT NEW
                                            Re: Mock me, for I suck at quoting. RETRY by Damocles 08/09/2003, 2:34am PDT NEW
                                                Re: Mock me, for I suck at quoting. RETRY by Lizard_King 08/09/2003, 2:51am PDT NEW
                                                    do not listen to these lies by FABIO 08/10/2003, 12:11am PDT NEW
                                                        The plot thickens by Lizard_King 08/10/2003, 12:31am PDT NEW
                                                            Re: The plot thickens by FABIO 08/10/2003, 1:23am PDT NEW
                                                                Re: The plot thickens by Lizard_King 08/10/2003, 2:06pm PDT NEW
            Re: notice: not a single spaceship (or even recognizable space) anywhere on cove by Damocles 07/27/2003, 4:40am PDT NEW
                Space Quest 5's mock Weekly World News issue would be #1 pick NT by FABIO 07/28/2003, 9:43am PDT NEW
    The Homeworld 2 Box Artist controversy is no more! by curst 07/29/2003, 4:29pm PDT NEW
        Re: The Homeworld 2 Box Artist controversy is no more! by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/29/2003, 5:00pm PDT NEW
            I mean, really, its still holds the game contents, doesn't it? NT by George Broussard 07/29/2003, 5:48pm PDT NEW
        yes it was me who made the difference NT by FABIO 07/29/2003, 10:30pm PDT NEW
        Not to burst the bubble by Unbitter 07/30/2003, 12:07pm PDT NEW
            I dont think it matters by FABIO 07/30/2003, 6:50pm PDT NEW
 
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