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by laudablepuss 01/06/2003, 7:34pm PST |
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Note that I'm not asking about UFOs or aliens. Perhaps this is not a new conclusion or a surprising one, but I'm absolutely convinced that flying saucers are real and completely man-made technology. I'm reading a book called "The Hunt for Zero Point", and while much of what this book says is a bit wacky, it supports my contention that disk-shaped flying vehicles of all manner have been and still are being produced.
I had seen shows about g-loc and wondered about ways to increase a pilot's tolerance to such forces. I understand that the head-up posture is bad because all the blood is forced out of the head into the legs, while the reclined position assumed by astronauts is better and allows for higher G-tolerance. Anyway, I wondered if there was a way to, say, make a plane where the pilot was lying on his back or belly in the cockpit instead of sitting upright. Then I saw another show that offered photos and a documented design history of disk-shaped flying wing aircraft in the US Air Force. This was fairly late, say the 60s or so, and there was nothing special about the propulsion. But I suddenly realized that sitting in a central cockpit in an aircraft that could rotate and thrust in a different direction altogether would allow for massive high-g turns while still providing good g-tollerance for the pilot, even though he was sitting upright still, since the force would be front to back instead of top to bottom. This seemed like an obvious conclusion and I would be amazed if governement and private engineers had failed to grasp it. (I'm not that smart, after all.)
The notion of a "radial flow gas turbine" engine that utilized the entire disk surface for the jet combustion of fuel only adds to the attraction of such a shape. But you don't need anti-gravity or other exotic forms of propulsion to reap some benefit from the design, IMO. Anyway, it was worth building some actual flying prototypes in the 60s, so there must have been something to it.
I always get irritated when UFO sightings are described as performing maneuvers that "no earthly plane ever made could achieve!!!!1" The only thing limiting our airframes from making 20g turns is the person inside. There are structural conerns, too, but the main thing is the pilot. An airfram can be constructed to handle extremely high g maneuvers, I have no doubt of that. It's just an engineering problem, the kind that people overcome all the time. So I'm sure a pilotless craft could do lots of the wacky tricks that people claim to have witnessed UFOs perform.
I'm even fairly sure that the sightings by allied pilots in Europe were real and related to wacky Nazi experiments, but I'm not as convinced of that. Certainly some of the stuff in that Hunt for Zero Point book strongly indicates this. I'm referring to actual quoted sources in the book (which presumably I could verify) as opposed to the conculsions the author draws.
Anyway, anyone have opinions on this subject? |
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Anyone here believe in Flying Saucers? by laudablepuss 01/06/2003, 7:34pm PST 
Son, put down the crackpipe slowly, turn towards me, and keep your hands visible by Sonny Crockett 01/06/2003, 7:48pm PST
Re: Anyone here believe in Flying Saucers? by mrs. johnson 01/06/2003, 7:59pm PST
Re: Anyone here believe in Flying Saucers? by veronica 01/06/2003, 10:24pm PST
Re: Anyone here believe in Flying Saucers? by mrs. johnson 01/07/2003, 12:30am PST
Re: Anyone here believe in Flying Saucers? by veronica 01/07/2003, 2:16am PST
Re: Anyone here believe in Flying Saucers? by mrs. johnson 01/07/2003, 11:16am PST
Re: Anyone here believe in Flying Saucers? by Rightbug 01/07/2003, 6:12pm PST
Nobody, I repeat, nobody is denying the greatness of seafood. n/T NT by mrs. johnson 01/07/2003, 7:28pm PST
I hate all forms of seafood now and forever by Senor Barborito 01/07/2003, 9:07pm PST
Re: I hate all forms of seafood now and forever by mrs. johnson 01/07/2003, 9:19pm PST
Re: I hate all forms of seafood now and forever by Senor Barborito 01/07/2003, 9:33pm PST
Re: I hate all forms of seafood now and forever by mrs. johnson 01/07/2003, 9:40pm PST
Re: Anyone here believe in Flying Saucers? by veronica 01/07/2003, 9:23pm PST
Re: Anyone here believe in Flying Saucers? by mrs. johnson 01/07/2003, 9:28pm PST
Holy fucking pseudoscience by Entropy Stew 01/06/2003, 8:14pm PST
Re: Holy fucking pseudoscience by Senor Barborito 01/06/2003, 9:43pm PST
Here, link by Senor Barborito 01/06/2003, 9:50pm PST
Re: Here, link by veronica 01/06/2003, 10:01pm PST
Re: Here, link by Zseni 01/06/2003, 10:15pm PST
Re: Here, link by laudablepuss 01/07/2003, 1:59am PST
Uh, what? by laudablepuss 01/07/2003, 1:47am PST
Re: Uh, what? by Entropy Stew 01/07/2003, 4:03am PST
Re: Uh, what? by laudablepuss 01/07/2003, 11:45am PST
Re: Uh, what? by Chairman Mao 01/07/2003, 12:15pm PST
Re: Uh, what? by laudablepuss 01/07/2003, 12:48pm PST
Re: Uh, what? by Chairman Mao 01/07/2003, 1:55pm PST
Re: Uh, what? by veronica 01/07/2003, 9:34pm PST
Its nowhere near as gay as a segway by Chairman Mao 01/07/2003, 9:51pm PST
Are people actually using Segways? Haven't seen one yet. -nt- by Colonel K 01/07/2003, 10:59pm PST
I saw one... it was beautiful by mrs. johnson 01/07/2003, 11:02pm PST
Re: I saw one... it was beautiful by veronica 01/07/2003, 11:23pm PST
Re: I saw one... it was beautiful by Colonel K 01/07/2003, 11:43pm PST
Chicago: Redefining Gay by Entropy Stew 01/08/2003, 12:05am PST
Re: Chicago: Redefining Gay by mrs. johnson 01/08/2003, 12:18am PST
He was a block away and a story below, and I was moving by Entropy Stew 01/08/2003, 12:48am PST
Re: He was a block away and a story below, and I was moving by mrs. johnson 01/08/2003, 12:59am PST
Re: He was a block away and a story below, and I was moving by Entropy Stew 01/08/2003, 1:13am PST
Re: He was a block away and a story below, and I was moving by Motherhead 01/08/2003, 1:27am PST
WOW THIS IS GETTING GAYER BY THE SECOND. KER-GAY! by Entropy Stew 01/08/2003, 2:11am PST
The People and the Folks. Those are gangs? Amish gangs? by conflictNo 01/08/2003, 2:24am PST
Headspin by Entropy Stew 01/08/2003, 2:33am PST
If I ran a gang we would be called the Gentlemen and we would all wear zoot suit by s. conflictNo 01/08/2003, 2:54am PST
If you ran a gang called the Gentlemen, it would be 1846. by Fussbett 01/08/2003, 4:07am PST
Re: WOW THIS IS GETTING GAYER BY THE SECOND. KER-GAY! by motherhead 01/08/2003, 3:21am PST
Re: He was a block away and a story below, and I was moving by junior allen 01/08/2003, 9:27am PST
Almost forgot - Glad to see you made it here -nt- NT by Entropy Stew 01/08/2003, 12:49am PST
Oh, and... by Chairman Mao 01/07/2003, 1:59pm PST
Re: Uh, what? by FABIO 01/07/2003, 1:47pm PST
Not sure, but I doubt it by Entropy Stew 01/08/2003, 12:16am PST
Er by Senor Barborito 01/08/2003, 8:18am PST
Here, picture by Senor Barborito 01/08/2003, 8:38am PST
Well fuck me -nt- by Entropy Stew 01/08/2003, 2:43pm PST
Re: Uh, what? by Mhead 01/08/2003, 1:58am PST
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