Zseni wrote:

I still think that guys should be allowed the same very close sleep-in-the-same-bed go-on-vaca-together togetherness that women can take for granted.

Homophobia has decimated the ranks of male friends. How terrifically awkward to get *_____* this close but not *____* this close - why? Because at that level of contact you can't keep your penises from touching? Seriously, don't you think it impacts your ENTIRE GENDER when you have to write all your wishes for closeness and understanding onto the half of humanity from which you can't stop distancing yourself?

Everyone who's ever told me "you know, men REALLY ARE different from women" has been a man, and every last one of them is afraid to get "too close" to their guy friends. The tropes about dudes clustering around a car hood, talking about the Engine and not about Each Other, is as stupid, false, and hackneyed as the trope about girls going shopping together. You know what women really like to do together? Have coffee and bitch about their lives and tell the life stories of everyone they know. AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. {--- key point. Everyone on the planet loves dish and togetherness.

Anyway, guys should be able to be The Closest Of Friends, that's all. Guys should be able to get close without having to defend themselves from accusations of homosexuality. The entire intimacy/sexuality spectrum needs to be rewritten to allow for degrees of intense friendship. That's all, you fucking man-hater.