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answers by FABIO 05/31/2003, 3:37am PDT
C&C: Generals is great (balanced) fun. Do NOT lump into the same category as retarded cheese-tactic fest Red Alert 2. Although, from the sound of your perfect game description I'm not sure if you'd be crazy for it. There can be quite a bit of micromanagement invovled depending on how you want to play. You have loading particular infantry into humvees, manuvering a hero unit around to sneak into and fuck up a base,etc. Not the highest amount of micromanagement in the world, but not the least. You say you had fun with Age of Empires. To me that was the biggest amount of uber-gay economical micro-management shit around: ten billion workers harvesting ten billion types of resources coupled with mindless flinging rock/paper/scissors shit at each other, the exact opposite of what I look for in an RTS. Generals is the opposite: streamlined resource gathering (less of a hassle than even Warcraft III) to leave you free for manuvering your little men around. Gameplay is slow enough so it doesn't disentigrate into anarchy like RA2 or WC3.


That small scale WW2 turn based game you mentioned is probably the Combat Mission series, available (and at (and ONLY at) www.battlefront.com. It's setup like Laser Squad:Nemises, you plot out your turn then it plays for 60 seconds of realtime. It's realistic and very easy to pick up, but I put it down after a few issues bugged me too much. You mentioned you hate retarded AI, well that's a problem here. It's only a problem kind of infrequently, but when it does crop up it's keyboard slamming frustration. Your tank crew AI is simply retarded; they change targets when you dont want them to, and continue firing at the same guy when you want them to change targets. I had a russian T-34 firing at my opponent's PanzerIII half a kilometer away. The PzIII cannot kill a T-34's front armor except at point blank range. Well, furing that turn a PzIII rolled right into view up the hill my T-34 was on, he popped up 20 meters in front of me. My T-34 had a full 30 seconds to react but kept firing at the far off tank. He died. Another time a tank platoon of reinforcements came in on the map edge directly behind my oppoent's tank platoon. You'd think that if four tanks were 20 meters directly behind four evenly matched tanks with their turrets turned the other way, that the group with their backs turn would get slaughtered. Nope, I ended up losing 3 tanks to his 4 because mine kept firing away at two of his long after they dead while his other two rotated their turrets and fired. Good job guys! Tank AI also seems very unaware of the fact that their side armor is weaker than their front; they will not rotate their front towards an opponent unless ordered to do so. I'd also send Tigers (with their unbeatable frontal armor) over a hill and before they'd reach the top they'd rotate their turret 90 degrees to fire machine guns at an abandoned vehicle crew. Oops there was an enemy tank over that hill that got a close range shot to my side turret! C'mon, you're about to clear a hill that you can clearly hear the sounds of battle on the other side of, and you present you weak side to it right before you clear it? Ugh.


Re: Laser Squad, my subscription just ran out a few days ago so I cant challenge you. I subscribed so I could play at school; now that I'm home I have all the hotseat opponents I'd need.

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Turn based tactical combat that doesn't suck? by Bitter 05/30/2003, 9:32pm PDT NEW
    Re: Turn based tactical combat that doesn't suck? by Alternate789 05/30/2003, 11:29pm PDT NEW
    Re: Turn based tactical combat that doesn't suck? by No Body 05/31/2003, 12:40am PDT NEW
        Age of Wonders by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/03/2003, 5:56am PDT NEW
            Re: Age of Wonders by No Body 06/03/2003, 7:01am PDT NEW
                A few words of warning about AoW2 by curst 06/03/2003, 9:55am PDT NEW
                    Re: A few words of warning about AoW2 by foogla 06/03/2003, 10:20am PDT NEW
                Re: Age of Wonders by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/03/2003, 5:55pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Age of Wonders by foogla 06/03/2003, 6:55pm PDT NEW
            You HAVE played FFT, right? NT by Entropy Stew 06/03/2003, 8:13pm PDT NEW
                Re: You HAVE played FFT, right? by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/03/2003, 8:32pm PDT NEW
                    GET IT NOW NOW NOW STOP READING AND BUY WAREZ KILL WHATEVER GET IT GET IT GET IT by Entropy Stew 06/03/2003, 8:47pm PDT NEW
                        Acknowledged! Moving out! NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/03/2003, 8:49pm PDT NEW
                            plot is convoluted, but yeah by FABIO 06/03/2003, 10:23pm PDT NEW
                                oh, and to increase your enjoyment by FABIO 06/03/2003, 10:26pm PDT NEW
                                    Do what he says by Entropy Stew 06/03/2003, 10:37pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: Do what he says by FABIO 06/04/2003, 1:12am PDT NEW
                                            forgot, TOTALLY IMPORTANT GAMEPLAY TIP by FABIO 06/04/2003, 1:16am PDT NEW
                                                Re: forgot, TOTALLY IMPORTANT GAMEPLAY TIP by mrs. johnson 06/04/2003, 1:46am PDT NEW
                                                    Re: forgot, TOTALLY IMPORTANT GAMEPLAY TIP by wide hurt 06/04/2003, 2:36am PDT NEW
                                                        Man, I can't wait to play FFT. Once I finish this gay Wild Arms shit, that is. NT by Lizard_King 06/04/2003, 3:30am PDT NEW
                                                            you're sticking with Wld Arms??? by FABIO 06/04/2003, 1:11pm PDT NEW
                                                                Actually, it is quite exceptional... by Lizard_King 06/05/2003, 3:13am PDT NEW
                                                                    Re: Actually, it is quite exceptional... by FABIO 06/05/2003, 8:06am PDT NEW
                                                                    Re: Actually, it is quite exceptional... by foogla 06/05/2003, 8:20am PDT NEW
                    DO NOT PLAY FALLOUT TACTICS. IT WILL DESTROY YOUR FAITH IN GAMES. NT by Senor Barborito 06/03/2003, 9:19pm PDT NEW
                        SECONDED NT by Entropy Stew 06/03/2003, 9:45pm PDT NEW
                            It's good, I think, but for some reason I just stopped playing at chapter 4. NT by mrs. johnson 06/03/2003, 10:06pm PDT NEW
                                Whoops, I thought that was FF Tactics, not Fallout. NT by mrs. johnson 06/03/2003, 10:08pm PDT NEW
                            Not necessarily thirded by curst 06/04/2003, 10:39am PDT NEW
                                Dynasty Tactics by FABIO 06/04/2003, 1:15pm PDT NEW
                        CARE TO EXPLAIN WHY? NT by arbit 06/04/2003, 1:37pm PDT NEW
                            Re: CARE TO EXPLAIN WHY? by FABIO 06/05/2003, 10:46am PDT NEW
                                Re: CARE TO EXPLAIN WHY? by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/05/2003, 3:54pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: CARE TO EXPLAIN WHY? by FABIO 06/05/2003, 8:05pm PDT NEW
                    FFT has eaten more hours of my life than any other video game by wide hurt 06/04/2003, 1:35am PDT NEW
    You're describing the game I'd like to develop, almost by Senor Barborito 05/31/2003, 3:00am PDT NEW
    answers by FABIO 05/31/2003, 3:37am PDT NEW
        Re: answers by Bitter. 05/31/2003, 10:56pm PDT NEW
            Re: answers by FABIO 06/01/2003, 1:14am PDT NEW
                Jagged Alliance 2 NT by fag packet 06/01/2003, 9:15pm PDT NEW
                Re: answers by Bitter 06/04/2003, 12:05am PDT NEW
                    Re: answers by FABIO 06/04/2003, 1:40am PDT NEW
    Thanks for this thread by K. Thor Jensen 06/02/2003, 6:23pm PDT NEW
        Two words: Rape Button NT by Entropy Stew 06/02/2003, 11:56pm PDT NEW
        Re: Thanks for this thread by Bitter 06/04/2003, 12:06am PDT NEW
        There's a FFT sequel coming for GBA by some loser who misses OMM 06/04/2003, 12:18am PDT NEW
            Tactics Ogre by FABIO 06/04/2003, 2:15am PDT NEW
                PS by FABIO 06/04/2003, 2:34am PDT NEW
                Re: Tactics Ogre by wide hurt 06/04/2003, 3:06am PDT NEW
                NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO by Entropy Stew 06/04/2003, 10:08am PDT NEW
                    I don't think Square had anything to do with Tactics Ogre NT by Bob Violence 06/04/2003, 11:21am PDT NEW
                        I hope so -nt- by Entropy Stew 06/04/2003, 11:46am PDT NEW
 
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