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Re: I think you guys are discarding the Sharp theory too easily. by Choson 04/28/2005, 1:56pm PDT
Fullofkittens wrote:


It's not a giant leap to say that Pixies - Breeders = Frank Black, and it's not a giant leap to say that old Weezer - New Weezer = The Rentals. Does that mean that Deal and Sharp were secretly cowriting songs with their bandleaders? No, but the possibility is very strong that having these talented people with strong opinions about music in the band caused Charles Thompson and Rivers Cuomo to work harder and more in a certain vein, in an attempt to appeal to those non-toady bandmates.


The problem with this argument is that you frame it like it's some obvious scientific equation. "Pixies - Breeders = Frank Black", isn't obvious to me. "Weezer - New Weezer = The Rentals"? No, more like "Weezer - New Weezer = Matt Sharp", whose current solo work doesn't sound anything like Weezer to me. I mean, you can fudge this stuff all you want, it doesn't boil down that easily.

If anything, I think you're putting the cart before the horse -- both bass players were a lot more likely to leave because they weren't being listened to and weren't actually involved in the majority of the writing than if the music was actually changed to accomodate their non-toadyism. I mean, if they were listening to these strong opinions in the end, why the departures?
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Weezer's Make Believe SUCKS by Fussbett 04/26/2005, 6:20pm PDT NEW
    Theories! by Fullofkittens 04/26/2005, 7:53pm PDT NEW
        Re: Theories! by Mysterio 04/26/2005, 9:33pm PDT NEW
            What about them? NT by Fullofkittens 04/26/2005, 9:43pm PDT NEW
            Only slightly better than Oasis by Drummer from Whitesnake 04/26/2005, 11:51pm PDT NEW
                Re: Only slightly better than Oasis by Choson 04/27/2005, 6:51am PDT NEW
            Re: Theories! by laudablepuss 04/27/2005, 12:09am PDT NEW
                Re: Theories! by Choson 04/27/2005, 6:53am PDT NEW
        Re: Theories! by Entropy Stew 04/26/2005, 11:58pm PDT NEW
            Re: Theories! by Bill Dungsroman 04/27/2005, 8:06am PDT NEW
                Re: Theories! by Fullofkittens 04/27/2005, 7:17pm PDT NEW
                    Nirvana by Fussbett 04/28/2005, 12:07am PDT NEW
                        How the hell can you make a direct comparison between the two? by Entropy Stew 04/28/2005, 12:52am PDT NEW
                            I'm directly comparing the public's opinion about each band. NT by Fussbett 04/28/2005, 1:04am PDT NEW
        Re: Theories! by Kthor 04/27/2005, 8:58am PDT NEW
            kthor didn't read very carefully. NT by binkbot 04/27/2005, 5:57pm PDT NEW
                Binkbot is right NT by Kthor, chastened 04/27/2005, 5:58pm PDT NEW
        Theory Judgement by Fussbett 04/28/2005, 12:38am PDT NEW
            Re: Theory Judgement by Choson 04/28/2005, 7:42am PDT NEW
                Re: Theory Judgement by Just a guy 04/28/2005, 9:34am PDT NEW
                    Re: Theory Judgement by Choson 04/28/2005, 10:05am PDT NEW
                        Re: Theory Judgement by Just a guy 04/28/2005, 10:44am PDT NEW
                I think you guys are discarding the Sharp theory too easily. by Fullofkittens 04/28/2005, 1:05pm PDT NEW
                    Re: I think you guys are discarding the Sharp theory too easily. by Choson 04/28/2005, 1:56pm PDT NEW
                        Re: I think you guys are discarding the Sharp theory too easily. by motherfuckerfoodeater 04/28/2005, 2:43pm PDT NEW
                            oh, one more by motherfuckerfoodeater 04/28/2005, 2:52pm PDT NEW
                            Re: I think you guys are discarding the Sharp theory too easily. by Zsenicorpse 08/08/2006, 12:30am PDT NEW
                        Re: I think you guys are discarding the Sharp theory too easily. by Fullofkittens 04/28/2005, 6:52pm PDT NEW
                            Re: I think you guys are discarding the Sharp theory too easily. by Fussbett 04/28/2005, 10:31pm PDT NEW
                            Re: I think you guys are discarding the Sharp theory too easily. by I need clarification 04/29/2005, 10:04am PDT NEW
                    Re: I think you guys are discarding the Sharp theory too easily. by Choson 05/01/2005, 4:51pm PDT NEW
                        Re: I think you guys are discarding the Sharp theory too easily. by Fullofkittens 05/01/2005, 5:14pm PDT NEW
        Re: Theories! by mannloon 05/13/2005, 7:18am PDT NEW
            Re: Theories! by mannloon 05/13/2005, 7:19am PDT NEW
                Weezer (and Matt Sharp sidebar) article from Alternative Press by Fussbett 05/13/2005, 7:58am PDT NEW
                    Thx Fuss by Bill Dungsroman 05/13/2005, 10:58am PDT NEW
            I think Mykel and Carli are probably a piece of the puzzle, too. by Fullofkittens 05/13/2005, 7:33am PDT NEW
    GOLDEN ERA WEEZER LINE-UP BACK TOGETHER by Fussbett 08/05/2006, 3:59am PDT NEW
        Matt Sharp is the only one not looking like a scumbag. by Fullofkittens 08/05/2006, 7:23am PDT NEW
        Weezer sucks by Something Awful 08/05/2006, 10:54am PDT NEW
            Reviewer dislikes "Tired Of Sex," quotes Calvin & Hobbes. NT by Liz Enkittengasm 08/05/2006, 11:06am PDT NEW
            Every post in this thread is more important than that article. by Fussbett 08/05/2006, 2:40pm PDT NEW
                Shit, I remember this thread! by motherfuckerfoodeater 08/05/2006, 11:38pm PDT NEW
                    I wasn't counting "Incesticide" because it's a comp and not a studio album. NT by Fullofkittens 08/08/2006, 6:34am PDT NEW
    Star Salzman slaps the dick out of Rivers Cuomo's mouth by Zsenicorpse 08/16/2006, 1:42am PDT NEW
        Wow those are people I've really heard of! They rock! NT by music fag 08/16/2006, 2:32am PDT NEW
 
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