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by Vested Id 11/03/2014, 9:24pm PST |
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Souffle of Pain wrote:
Vested Id wrote:
Souffle of Pain wrote:
In the late 90s we all agreed that violence in video game doesn't REALLY mess you up.
Someone explain to me how misogyny in games, though.... well that CAN mess you up.
You explain that to me successfully and I'll never think another bad thought against a Sarkeesian type.
This is equivalent to asking "How do I explain homosexuality to my kid?"
hahaha, how?
Everyone, and I mean everyone, agreed that playing violent video games had no effect on anyone's behavior in real life. It wasn't just the "violent" part. Everyone.... everyone understood that the games don't map to real life.
This is not true! There's been so many fucking studies, and I can't name them, but I vaguely remember one which said violent video games definitely make you more violent in the short term. But just because mainstream society drops a question doesn't mean there's a clear answer. Gaming demographics have changed to the point where they're not seen as exclusively a kid's thing, so people don't care as much.
What was definitely shown was that 1) gaming is an easy target, and 2) hucksters love whipping people up over an easy target.
You can read Lolita and not want to fuck children. You can watch Scarface and not want to snort mountains of cocaine.
I think we can all agree Scarface never played any part in shaping anyone's worldview. But that said, almost no movies (at the time) were as violent as Scarface, and according to google Nabokov had already written more than a dozen novels before Lolita. He wasn't clearly a smut peddler, and as far as I know there wasn't a huge kiddie porn problem among established novelists in the 1950s. You're talking about two corner cases.
But playing one video game where there's a girl in a chainmail bikini means your attitudes will change? What? How?
This is like the kid I read in EGM two decades ago talking about how MK2 wasn't going to provoke him to rip out his sister's spine. No one is saying one game is going to do anything. The point is that designers in general have too much license to be smutty and sexist. There's enough examples out there to spend an entire webseries on.
Is that the one thing that does translate over from the realm of fiction into real life? Or are there others? I mean, if it's treating women poorly and arson and animal cruelty (but NOT violence!) then fine.
This argument is the worst, shut your fat face. |
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Answer the following for me and I'll shut up. by Souffle of Pain 10/30/2014, 8:48pm PDT 
It shapes your attitudes by Vested Id 10/30/2014, 11:19pm PDT
Doesn't everything shape your attitudes? by Worm 10/31/2014, 6:18am PDT
Re: Doesn't everything shape your attitudes? by Roop 11/05/2014, 6:27pm PST
Re: It shapes your attitudes by Souffle of Pain 11/02/2014, 6:40am PST
Re: It shapes your attitudes by Vested Id 11/03/2014, 9:24pm PST
Re: It shapes your attitudes by Last 11/04/2014, 7:55am PST
That study stinks and I'm going to skullfuck your corpse! by Mischief Maker 11/04/2014, 10:17am PST
Good points. NT by Last 11/04/2014, 10:45am PST
Re: It shapes your attitudes by Souffle of Pain 11/04/2014, 10:53am PST
"The written word has zero influence." <-- Person arguing on internet forum. by Last 11/04/2014, 11:45am PST
Re: "The written word has zero influence." <-- Person arguing on internet forum. by Souffle of Pain 11/04/2014, 11:54am PST
I felt kinda bad about not responding to your question earlier but now I don't by Arbit 11/05/2014, 3:45pm PST
Differences in degree are differences in kind by Mysterio 11/05/2014, 4:00pm PST
Re: Differences in degree are differences in kind by Arbit 11/05/2014, 4:06pm PST
Re: Differences in degree are differences in kind by Mysterio 11/05/2014, 4:23pm PST
This is like this, because that is like that. NT by Thich Nhat Hahn 11/05/2014, 5:11pm PST
Re: Differences in degree are differences in kind by Arbit 11/06/2014, 10:07am PST
"Media has an influence on how we think!!!" by Gutsby 11/06/2014, 12:17pm PST
Video games polluting my view of women have as much evidence as climate change. by Worm 11/06/2014, 1:46pm PST
How do you feel about American Psycho? NT by WITTGENSTEIN 11/05/2014, 4:24pm PST
Re: I felt kinda bad about not responding to your question earlier but now by Souffle of Pain 11/05/2014, 5:36pm PST
Thanks for the response NT by Vested Id 11/04/2014, 11:55am PST
I've never picked up a 1911, but I have a pretty good idea how to handle one. NT by This applies to broads as well. ^_^ 10/31/2014, 12:20am PDT
SOMEBODY REPORT THIS DEATH THREAT WHILE I GET MY CHECKBOOK! NT by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/31/2014, 12:53am PDT
Re: I've never picked up a 1911, but I have a pretty good idea how to by Souffle of Pain 11/02/2014, 6:41am PST
Re: Answer the following for me and I'll shut up. by Last 10/31/2014, 9:05am PDT
I think I'd be a more accepting if the targets of critiques were examples by Worm 10/31/2014, 10:31am PDT
Re: Answer the following for me and I'll shut up. by Souffle of Pain 11/02/2014, 6:43am PST
The presence of violence is seen as concrete, discrimination is subjective. by serial malcontent 11/01/2014, 4:10pm PDT
I agree with all of that except one thing by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 11/01/2014, 4:22pm PDT
Plus Bioware is still making games. That's worth at least getting annoyed over. NT by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 11/01/2014, 4:27pm PDT
lack of job security is a consequence of economics, not politics by serial malcontent 11/01/2014, 10:29pm PDT
Re: lack of job security is a consequence of economics, not politics by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 11/01/2014, 10:55pm PDT
Re: lack of job security is a consequence of economics, not politics by serial malcontent 11/02/2014, 12:02am PDT
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