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That study stinks and I'm going to skullfuck your corpse! by Mischief Maker 11/04/2014, 10:17am PST
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Re: violent video games


I take serious issue with this experiment.

In short, this experiment had a collection of college undergraduates in a single session play a videogame for 20 minutes, get their heart rate and sweat levels tested for 5 minutes, then watch a 10 minute video of real life violence. They found less heartrate elevation and sweat response to the real-life violence video in the violent games group than the nonviolent.

First of all the selection of games (note that none of the games are in the same genre):

Violent:

Carmageddon
Duke Nukem
Mortal Kombat
Future Cop

Nonviolent:

Glider Pro
3D Pinball
3D Munch Man
Tetra Madness

None of the nonviolent games are in the same genre as the violent ones, and furthermore the violent games are more challenging and intense on a mechanics level than the nonviolent. Now if you were to compare, say, Violent racing game Carmageddon to Nonviolent racing game Outrun 2, then I'd be more impressed by the findings. Both would be games challenging a similar skillset under similar levels of intensity, the major difference between the two is the presence of violent images. Instead the disparate genres add a very significant variable to be considered besides violent images. I'd like to see the difference in sweat and pulse in a person playing a sedate nonviolent game like Glider Pro verses a person playing an intense nonviolent game like Outrun 2. I'm thinking you'd see similar results to the violent games in Outrun 2.

I'm surprised they didn't have a group watching a violent movie for 20 minutes before watching 10 minutes of real-life violence to see if there was something special about videogames that differentiated them from other media.

Furthermore, this is an extremely short-term experiment measuring a person's response in barely more than a half-hour span. Smelling gas for 20 minutes in one room will make you less able to smell gas in another room compared to someone coming in from outside. It doesn't imply a long-term impairment of your olfactory response.

What's maddening is at the start of the experiment they asked participants about their gaming habits, then discarded that data instead of comparing the response of hardcore gamerz to casuals.

Bad study. I am unconvinced.

Holy fuck this #gamersgate is bringing out the weirdest in people. Suddenly we have lifelong Caltrops posters grousing about how they've turned themselves into serial killers because of all the Duke Nukem they played!
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Answer the following for me and I'll shut up. by Souffle of Pain 10/30/2014, 8:48pm PDT NEW
    It shapes your attitudes by Vested Id 10/30/2014, 11:19pm PDT NEW
        Doesn't everything shape your attitudes? by Worm 10/31/2014, 6:18am PDT NEW
            Re: Doesn't everything shape your attitudes? by Roop 11/05/2014, 6:27pm PST NEW
        Re: It shapes your attitudes by Souffle of Pain 11/02/2014, 6:40am PST NEW
            Re: It shapes your attitudes by Vested Id 11/03/2014, 9:24pm PST NEW
            Re: It shapes your attitudes by Last 11/04/2014, 7:55am PST NEW
                That study stinks and I'm going to skullfuck your corpse! by Mischief Maker 11/04/2014, 10:17am PST NEW
                    Good points. NT by Last 11/04/2014, 10:45am PST NEW
                Re: It shapes your attitudes by Souffle of Pain 11/04/2014, 10:53am PST NEW
                    "The written word has zero influence." <-- Person arguing on internet forum. by Last 11/04/2014, 11:45am PST NEW
                        Re: "The written word has zero influence." <-- Person arguing on internet forum. by Souffle of Pain 11/04/2014, 11:54am PST NEW
                    I felt kinda bad about not responding to your question earlier but now I don't by Arbit 11/05/2014, 3:45pm PST NEW
                        Differences in degree are differences in kind by Mysterio 11/05/2014, 4:00pm PST NEW
                            Re: Differences in degree are differences in kind by Arbit 11/05/2014, 4:06pm PST NEW
                                Re: Differences in degree are differences in kind by Mysterio 11/05/2014, 4:23pm PST NEW
                                    This is like this, because that is like that. NT by Thich Nhat Hahn 11/05/2014, 5:11pm PST NEW
                                    Re: Differences in degree are differences in kind by Arbit 11/06/2014, 10:07am PST NEW
                                        "Media has an influence on how we think!!!" by Gutsby 11/06/2014, 12:17pm PST NEW
                                        Video games polluting my view of women have as much evidence as climate change. by Worm 11/06/2014, 1:46pm PST NEW
                        How do you feel about American Psycho? NT by WITTGENSTEIN 11/05/2014, 4:24pm PST NEW
                        Re: I felt kinda bad about not responding to your question earlier but now by Souffle of Pain 11/05/2014, 5:36pm PST NEW
                Thanks for the response NT by Vested Id 11/04/2014, 11:55am PST NEW
    I've never picked up a 1911, but I have a pretty good idea how to handle one. NT by This applies to broads as well. ^_^ 10/31/2014, 12:20am PDT NEW
        SOMEBODY REPORT THIS DEATH THREAT WHILE I GET MY CHECKBOOK! NT by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/31/2014, 12:53am PDT NEW
        Re: I've never picked up a 1911, but I have a pretty good idea how to by Souffle of Pain 11/02/2014, 6:41am PST NEW
    Re: Answer the following for me and I'll shut up. by Last 10/31/2014, 9:05am PDT NEW
        I think I'd be a more accepting if the targets of critiques were examples by Worm 10/31/2014, 10:31am PDT NEW
        Re: Answer the following for me and I'll shut up. by Souffle of Pain 11/02/2014, 6:43am PST NEW
    The presence of violence is seen as concrete, discrimination is subjective. by serial malcontent 11/01/2014, 4:10pm PDT NEW
        I agree with all of that except one thing by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 11/01/2014, 4:22pm PDT NEW
            Plus Bioware is still making games. That's worth at least getting annoyed over. NT by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 11/01/2014, 4:27pm PDT NEW
            lack of job security is a consequence of economics, not politics by serial malcontent 11/01/2014, 10:29pm PDT NEW
                Re: lack of job security is a consequence of economics, not politics by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 11/01/2014, 10:55pm PDT NEW
                    Re: lack of job security is a consequence of economics, not politics by serial malcontent 11/02/2014, 12:02am PDT NEW
 
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