Forum Overview :: Gamergate :: Re: It shapes your attitudes

[quote name="Vested Id"][quote name="Souffle of Pain"][quote name="Vested Id"][quote name="Souffle of Pain"]In the late 90s we all agreed that violence in video game doesn't REALLY mess you up. Someone explain to me how misogyny in games, though.... well that CAN mess you up. You explain that to me successfully and I'll never think another bad thought against a Sarkeesian type.[/quote] This is equivalent to asking "How do I explain homosexuality to my kid?"[/quote] hahaha, how? Everyone, and I mean everyone, agreed that playing violent video games had no effect on anyone's behavior in real life. It wasn't just the "violent" part. Everyone.... everyone understood that the games don't map to real life.[/quote] This is not true! There's been so many fucking studies, and I can't name them, but I vaguely remember one which said violent video games definitely make you more violent in the short term. But just because mainstream society drops a question doesn't mean there's a clear answer. Gaming demographics have changed to the point where they're not seen as exclusively a kid's thing, so people don't care as much. What was definitely shown was that 1) gaming is an easy target, and 2) hucksters love whipping people up over an easy target. [quote]You can read Lolita and not want to fuck children. You can watch Scarface and not want to snort mountains of cocaine.[/quote] I think we can all agree Scarface never played any part in shaping anyone's worldview. But that said, almost no movies (at the time) were as violent as Scarface, and according to google Nabokov had already written more than a dozen novels before Lolita. He wasn't clearly a smut peddler, and as far as I know there wasn't a huge kiddie porn problem among established novelists in the 1950s. You're talking about two corner cases. [quote]But playing one video game where there's a girl in a chainmail bikini means your attitudes will change? What? How?[/quote] This is like the kid I read in EGM two decades ago talking about how MK2 wasn't going to provoke him to rip out his sister's spine. No one is saying one game is going to do anything. The point is that designers <em>in general</em> have too much license to be smutty and sexist. There's enough examples out there to spend an entire webseries on. [quote]Is that the one thing that does translate over from the realm of fiction into real life? Or are there others? I mean, if it's treating women poorly and arson and animal cruelty (but NOT violence!) then fine. [/quote] This argument is the worst, shut your fat face.[/quote]