Forum Overview :: Master of Orion 1-2-3
 
Still trying to like it by fabio 03/24/2012, 1:33pm PDT
With random encounters turned off, I'm actually thinking the Hivers are the easiest race to play. No constantly fretting about engine techs and ferrying tanker escorts. Their speed disadvantage only really applies to the first neighboring stars. After setting up the first gates they're pretty much even with other races in expanding, and travel is instantaneous without worrying about fuel levels ever again. The bonuses to combat and terraforming are just gravy.

The game fights you every step of the way in trying to glean effective strategies. Do I want armor or shields? Drones or missiles? What exactly does 300 more armor points get me? There are no hard numbers, only vague graphs for weapons and defenses don't even give you that. Technologies having totally unrelated, secret prerequisites that you only find out after the fact (or memorizing a guide).

Combat desperately needs an indicator of effective weapon range. The most baffling design decision of the game was to make the strategic map a confusing true 3D for absolutely no reason, followed by making the battles (where 3 dimensions would actually add something) take place on a flat 2D plane where it's possible for friendly ships to collide in the infinite depths of space.


Here's me designing the perfect 4X game: combine the 90% of everything MOO1 still does best to this day (mostly in strategic simplicity) with the 10% of MOO2 that improved on that (better early to mid game battles, expanded diplomacy).
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For turn-based space 4x, I recommend Armada 2526. NT by The Armada 2526 Recommender 03/23/2012, 10:21am PDT NEW
    I heard the combat for that was boring. Review plz. NT by Mischief Maker 03/23/2012, 11:47am PDT NEW
        Sure. But is combat ever NOT boring in 4X? NT by The Armada 2526 Recommender 03/23/2012, 12:18pm PDT NEW
            Sword of the Stars, MOO1, Starships Unlimited. NT by Mischief Maker 03/23/2012, 5:12pm PDT NEW
                Re: Sword of the Stars, MOO1, Starships Unlimited. by Festus McGee 03/24/2012, 10:36am PDT NEW
                    Are you kidding me??? by Mischief Maker 03/24/2012, 12:28pm PDT NEW
                        Still trying to like it by fabio 03/24/2012, 1:33pm PDT NEW
                            From what I read, Armada 2526 is probably what you're looking for. by Mischief Maker 03/24/2012, 2:03pm PDT NEW
                                Re: From what I read, Armada 2526 is probably what you're looking for. by fabio 03/24/2012, 2:15pm PDT NEW
                                    MOO ships were mathematical abstracts. by Mischief Maker 03/24/2012, 2:54pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: MOO ships were mathematical abstracts. by fabio 03/24/2012, 3:49pm PDT NEW
                                            Does King Arthur count? by Mischief Maker 03/24/2012, 6:28pm PDT NEW
                                                Is King Arthur worth $5 + time? NT by fabio 03/28/2012, 2:43pm PDT NEW
                                                    $5??? Fuck yeah. by Mischief Maker 03/28/2012, 4:27pm PDT NEW
                                            Just a reminder: SOTS2 still sucks and you should not buy it for even 5$ by WITTGENSTEIN 03/25/2012, 9:41am PDT NEW
                                                Essentially, SOTS is RISK, so it was a mistake adding all that shit anyway. by Mischief Maker 03/25/2012, 3:39pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: Essentially, SOTS is RISK, so it was a mistake adding all that shit anyway. by N 03/25/2012, 6:51pm PDT NEW
                                                        MOO1 had randomized tech by fabio 03/25/2012, 9:55pm PDT NEW
        I'd also like a review by fabio 03/23/2012, 12:29pm PDT NEW
            I didn't actually play it enough for a full review. by The Armada 2526 Recommender 03/24/2012, 10:35am PDT NEW
                C'mon! Don't be a pussy! by Mischief Maker 03/25/2012, 8:49am PDT NEW
    Bought this, regretted it by fabio 07/22/2012, 10:13pm PDT NEW
 
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