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by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 4:40pm PST |
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Worm wrote:
The whole "okay he wasn't the son of god but he did basically most of the shit in the bible except the magic was embellishment" line is just such an appeasing crock of shit. That's mainly my problem, I guess I might be denying Christ on principle but I still think it's better than the alternative.
If anyone said those words, that would indeed be lending credibility. The words "Jesus" and "Christ" are not synonymous, but are used so interchangeably by many that it's easy to forget: one is a guys name (we have a guy here at work with that name, and it wasn't uncommon before Jesus became famous) and the other is an explicitly religious title*. That's why the book I quoted at tdarcos has the title that it does.
Anyway, the scholarship in this area is interesting and generally pretty good. And by good I mean "properly skeptical".
*Although, now that I think about it, we have a person here with the last name of Christ, too. She pronounces it "krist" though. :( :( :( |
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Hitchens is in a pretty awkward conversation with Mother Teresa and Jesus Christ NT by Fullofkitttens 12/16/2011, 8:44am PST 
Oh really? A woman who adored suffering and pain, and a mythical figure NT by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/17/2011, 10:44am PST
Okay NT by Fag 12/17/2011, 5:52pm PST
Jesus Christ was a person who existed for real, FYI NT by Contaminated H202 12/18/2011, 12:57am PST
And you have proof of this, from? by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/18/2011, 7:55am PST
Jesus is frowning at you so hard from Heaven NT by Entropy Stew 12/18/2011, 5:48pm PST
Jesus will forgive Tdarcos just as he forgave Christopher Hitchens. ^__^ <3 NT by Fullofkittens 12/18/2011, 6:19pm PST
There are other references to this guy. by laudablepuss 12/18/2011, 11:46pm PST
Hitchens Agreed! by Mischief Maker 12/19/2011, 8:20am PST
Isn't it more about there being Christians in 60 AD? by Worm 12/19/2011, 11:56am PST
Re: Isn't it more about there being Christians in 60 AD? by laudablepuss 12/19/2011, 1:05pm PST
Well his complaint was the bible was 100 years after the fact and you go by hey here's something 60 years after 12/19/2011, 1:35pm PST
I can't take this complaint seriously. by laudablepuss 12/19/2011, 10:48pm PST
What other complaint could anyone have really? by Worm 12/20/2011, 12:29am PST
How can you justify to a peasant that they suffer and die for your benefit? by Mischief Maker 12/19/2011, 2:26pm PST
Re: How can you justify to a peasant that they suffer and die for your benefit? by laudablepuss 12/19/2011, 11:23pm PST
Re: How can you justify to a peasant that they suffer and die for your benefit? by Roop 12/20/2011, 1:59am PST
oh my god if i wasn't totally slammed i would spend an hour setting all of this by straight -ndd 12/20/2011, 5:28am PST
Whatever but think of a punchline next time NT by Roop 12/20/2011, 6:30am PST
Nice "space reserved" reply by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 8:11am PST
Let me tell you about a "cool dude" his name was Jesus. by Worm 12/20/2011, 10:36am PST
Re: Let me tell you about a "cool dude" his name was Jesus. by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 11:09am PST
I dunno is it more proof than a religious text dedicated to worshiping him and by Worm 12/20/2011, 11:39am PST
*pythagrites NT by Worm 12/20/2011, 11:42am PST
Nope. by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 12:48pm PST
This is gold, btw by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 12:55pm PST
"tenants" of a religion by up with pod people 12/20/2011, 1:08pm PST
Dude, I called my Lord to tell him about the pedophile infestation... by Religion Tenant 12/20/2011, 1:49pm PST
Words . . . uh huh huh . . . words . . . by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 2:13pm PST
Yes the words "Christ existed" lend like zero validity to Christianity. by Worm 12/20/2011, 3:51pm PST
Re: Yes the words "Christ existed" lend like zero validity to Christianity. by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 4:40pm PST
My taxes pay for your booze, goddamn lazy civil servants! by Mischief Maker 12/20/2011, 8:32am PST
Have you ever made a legal argument out of Youtube clips? NT by Mysterio 12/20/2011, 11:40am PST
Okay, I'll bite. Why the pathological hatred of lawyers, anonyfag? NT by Mischief Maker 12/20/2011, 11:46am PST
Is there a single person who doesn't hate lawyers? Is that person a lawyer? NT by different anonyfag 12/20/2011, 1:21pm PST
Lots of them, they're called people in trouble. You may become one someday. NT by Mischief Maker 12/20/2011, 1:46pm PST
I'm going to guess "TV writers" as one group that loves lawyers by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 2:23pm PST
I don't hate lawyers and I never have by jeep 12/22/2011, 4:30pm PST
Why the insistence that everyone hates everything BUT your lazy youtube linking? NT by Mysterio 12/20/2011, 4:20pm PST
Palpatine? Is that you? by Mischief Plinkett 12/20/2011, 6:01pm PST
No. by ndd 12/21/2011, 9:43pm PST
Re: No. by Souffle of Pain 12/21/2011, 10:48pm PST
awww souffle what a sweetiepants by ndd 12/23/2011, 11:29am PST
Re: awww souffle what a sweetiepants by Souffle of Pain 12/23/2011, 3:04pm PST
Re: awww souffle what a sweetiepants by ndd 12/23/2011, 4:29pm PST
Re: No. by Mischief Maker 12/21/2011, 10:51pm PST
I have something profound to say about Christ by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/22/2011, 4:03pm PST
Re: No. by ndd 12/23/2011, 11:31am PST
Re: No. by Mischief Maker 12/23/2011, 7:38pm PST
Re: No. by ndd 12/24/2011, 8:46am PST
Re: No. by Mischief Maker 12/24/2011, 11:01am PST
See? Much better by Mysterio 12/24/2011, 2:00pm PST
I like that you're expounding on forum etiquette no-nos as a Mysterio. by Mischief Maker 12/24/2011, 3:37pm PST
That didn't last long. You're back in the slump. by Mysterio 12/24/2011, 10:42pm PST
are you trying to fix this guy or what by Mysterio 12/25/2011, 8:17am PST
Re: are you trying to fix this guy or what by Mysterio 12/25/2011, 9:23am PST
Long live the new flesh! by Mischief Maker 12/25/2011, 11:13am PST
Perhaps I should make myself more clear. by Mischief Maker 12/25/2011, 12:03pm PST
Re: Perhaps I should make myself more clear. by Mysterio 12/25/2011, 2:34pm PST
Behold, Zseni, my enemy in secular form. by Mischief Maker 12/27/2011, 6:35pm PST
no. by ndd 12/29/2011, 6:41am PST
Re: no. by Last 12/29/2011, 8:56am PST
Re: no. by ndd 01/01/2012, 9:22pm PST
What a fool I've been! Zseni, you've shown me the error of my ways. by Mischief Maker 01/02/2012, 8:51am PST
Re: What a fool I've been! Zseni, you've shown me the error of my ways. by laudablepuss 01/02/2012, 7:24pm PST
I'm going to assume that this is not representative of your professional behavio by ndd 12/24/2011, 2:41pm PST
Defensible things don't NEED to be sacred! NT by Mischief Maker 12/24/2011, 3:40pm PST
What does sacred even mean to you? NT by Gutsby 12/24/2011, 8:14pm PST
shit you don't criticize because YOU DON'T CRITICIZE NT by not misceif maker 12/24/2011, 9:09pm PST
yeah but that definition falls apart if a dude cannot think of the words by ndd 12/24/2011, 9:19pm PST
I get it. by Mischief Maker 12/24/2011, 11:14pm PST
WHY ARE YOU WORKING BACKWARDS THROUGH ALL OF THE MOST AWFUL IDEAS by ndd 12/24/2011, 11:34pm PST
if i do, they need to be identified and eliminated by not misceif maker 12/24/2011, 7:08pm PST
Re: No. by Mysterio 12/23/2011, 11:36am PST
Re: No. by laudablepuss 12/22/2011, 1:33pm PST
Re: No. by ndd 12/23/2011, 11:35am PST
I just deny Christ historic or otherwise on principle. by Worm 12/22/2011, 3:59pm PST
btw btw i got some shit to say about the laziness of civil servants by ndd 12/21/2011, 9:44pm PST
Re: btw btw i got some shit to say about the laziness of civil servants by Arbit 12/22/2011, 3:02pm PST
When I die and go to Hell... by FoK 12/22/2011, 4:04pm PST
Re: When I die and go to Hell... by Mysterio 12/23/2011, 11:06am PST
sorry that was me. i'm really tired. :( NT by ndd 12/23/2011, 11:19am PST
quadratic time complexity by Entropy Stew 12/24/2011, 9:52pm PST
Holy shit, I wrote this? by laudablepuss 03/24/2014, 12:56pm PDT
I think I want to keep some insults I threw at Worm though. by laudablepuss 03/24/2014, 1:17pm PDT
Jesus still is only about as historically verified as Thor. NT by Worm 03/24/2014, 4:56pm PDT
Believe whatever mofucking shit you want to believe in you mofucker NT by But believe in something, mofucker 03/24/2014, 7:51pm PDT
No, this isn't true. This isn't true at all. NT by John Gulp 03/24/2014, 10:15pm PDT
Sure it is, when we use the "Historical Jesus" standard for truth. NT by Worm 03/24/2014, 10:27pm PDT
I thought his Crucifixion was verifiable. by John Gulp 03/24/2014, 10:38pm PDT
The crucifixion is entirely drawn from Psalms and other sources by laudablepuss 03/26/2014, 10:05am PDT
So I don't understand by John Gulp 03/26/2014, 11:56am PDT
Worm was saying that, Tdarcos was saying that by laudablepuss 03/26/2014, 1:07pm PDT
Jesus is hogging this thread by Mischief Maker 12/20/2011, 9:06am PST
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