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by Mischief Maker 12/27/2011, 6:35pm PST |
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Mysterio wrote:
thinking he's the first person to ever crack human social behavior with lectures on monkey semen, sub-Freudian analysis, seduction artist garbage about how the Bhagavad Gītā is the secret to boning chicks, and other freshman psych material.
As I said before, I find the secular sacred far more pernicious than the religious, because the religious sacred status has the achilles heel of the supernatural, which can easily be toppled. The secular sacred, or "serious" ideas require a great deal more cunning to trap.
Herein the Mysterio I was responding to was seeking to silence me on a number of topics, including sexual monogamy, as brought up by the book "Sex at Dawn." I invited the mysterio to shoot my hypotheses down. Two days of silence. The Mysterio has no answer, nor has the mysterio likely investigated the reason why (s)he must devote its life in such an intimate way to this "Serious" idea.
Now it would be silly of me to expect any person to have an encyclopedic knowledge of the underlying justification for every belief it bases its actions on, but fortunately we live in the future and are all sitting at electronic brains connected to a worldwide network of knowledge, so an answer can be compiled in a fraction of the time it would have taken our elders.
Take "Sex at Dawn," which I would describe as a thought-provoking, but otherwise not very well written book. A simple google search pulls up an academic review that takes the book to task for claiming anectodal evidence as probative, as well as many other problems with the book. Also, a scathing critique by a polyamorous couple, and an entire blog entitled, Fuck Sex at Dawn. This is a debate I could very easily lose to the Mysterio.
But not even a single argument is flung back at me. The debate is refused out of hand because it's not Serious/Sacred. Like Martin Luther, THAT is the devil at whom I fling my inkpot!
But just as Martin Luther said that "Reason is the Devil's Harlot," appeals to social status/authority is the harlot to my devil. Note the tactics of the mysterio's shame attempt. I am accused of aspiring to a higher social status, that I claim to be "the first person to ever crack human behavior" on these various topics. This in itself is an incorrect statement just on the face of what I said, because I neither claimed to be the first, and also cited my sources. The mysterio then goes on to punish my behavior by attacking my own social standing, saying that such statements put me on par with a "freshman psych major." And even more telling, this individual attacking me posts as a mysterio, so as not to risk its own social status on the 'Trops in case my counterargument is stonger than expected. Not only are the merits of the case not discussed, I am threatened with social exclusion (excommunication?) should I continue to question it.
Whether such behavior is in defense of an authority that cannot be justified (in the case of religion) or simple intellectual laziness, it results in waste, sometimes to tragic levels, and I have no patience for it in the 21st century.
Or as Bill Burr summed it up brilliantly in that youtube clip you so angrily redacted, positive self-improving behavior is hidden and suppressed for fear that your friends will say, "What are you, a fag?!!" It's funny 'cause it's true.
THAT is my interest. Religion is only a portion of the greater problem. Now does my answer satisfy you? |
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Hitchens is in a pretty awkward conversation with Mother Teresa and Jesus Christ NT by Fullofkitttens 12/16/2011, 8:44am PST 
Oh really? A woman who adored suffering and pain, and a mythical figure NT by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/17/2011, 10:44am PST
Okay NT by Fag 12/17/2011, 5:52pm PST
Jesus Christ was a person who existed for real, FYI NT by Contaminated H202 12/18/2011, 12:57am PST
And you have proof of this, from? by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 12/18/2011, 7:55am PST
Jesus is frowning at you so hard from Heaven NT by Entropy Stew 12/18/2011, 5:48pm PST
Jesus will forgive Tdarcos just as he forgave Christopher Hitchens. ^__^ <3 NT by Fullofkittens 12/18/2011, 6:19pm PST
There are other references to this guy. by laudablepuss 12/18/2011, 11:46pm PST
Hitchens Agreed! by Mischief Maker 12/19/2011, 8:20am PST
Isn't it more about there being Christians in 60 AD? by Worm 12/19/2011, 11:56am PST
Re: Isn't it more about there being Christians in 60 AD? by laudablepuss 12/19/2011, 1:05pm PST
Well his complaint was the bible was 100 years after the fact and you go by hey here's something 60 years after 12/19/2011, 1:35pm PST
I can't take this complaint seriously. by laudablepuss 12/19/2011, 10:48pm PST
What other complaint could anyone have really? by Worm 12/20/2011, 12:29am PST
How can you justify to a peasant that they suffer and die for your benefit? by Mischief Maker 12/19/2011, 2:26pm PST
Re: How can you justify to a peasant that they suffer and die for your benefit? by laudablepuss 12/19/2011, 11:23pm PST
Re: How can you justify to a peasant that they suffer and die for your benefit? by Roop 12/20/2011, 1:59am PST
oh my god if i wasn't totally slammed i would spend an hour setting all of this by straight -ndd 12/20/2011, 5:28am PST
Whatever but think of a punchline next time NT by Roop 12/20/2011, 6:30am PST
Nice "space reserved" reply by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 8:11am PST
Let me tell you about a "cool dude" his name was Jesus. by Worm 12/20/2011, 10:36am PST
Re: Let me tell you about a "cool dude" his name was Jesus. by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 11:09am PST
I dunno is it more proof than a religious text dedicated to worshiping him and by Worm 12/20/2011, 11:39am PST
*pythagrites NT by Worm 12/20/2011, 11:42am PST
Nope. by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 12:48pm PST
This is gold, btw by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 12:55pm PST
"tenants" of a religion by up with pod people 12/20/2011, 1:08pm PST
Dude, I called my Lord to tell him about the pedophile infestation... by Religion Tenant 12/20/2011, 1:49pm PST
Words . . . uh huh huh . . . words . . . by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 2:13pm PST
Yes the words "Christ existed" lend like zero validity to Christianity. by Worm 12/20/2011, 3:51pm PST
Re: Yes the words "Christ existed" lend like zero validity to Christianity. by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 4:40pm PST
My taxes pay for your booze, goddamn lazy civil servants! by Mischief Maker 12/20/2011, 8:32am PST
Have you ever made a legal argument out of Youtube clips? NT by Mysterio 12/20/2011, 11:40am PST
Okay, I'll bite. Why the pathological hatred of lawyers, anonyfag? NT by Mischief Maker 12/20/2011, 11:46am PST
Is there a single person who doesn't hate lawyers? Is that person a lawyer? NT by different anonyfag 12/20/2011, 1:21pm PST
Lots of them, they're called people in trouble. You may become one someday. NT by Mischief Maker 12/20/2011, 1:46pm PST
I'm going to guess "TV writers" as one group that loves lawyers by laudablepuss 12/20/2011, 2:23pm PST
I don't hate lawyers and I never have by jeep 12/22/2011, 4:30pm PST
Why the insistence that everyone hates everything BUT your lazy youtube linking? NT by Mysterio 12/20/2011, 4:20pm PST
Palpatine? Is that you? by Mischief Plinkett 12/20/2011, 6:01pm PST
No. by ndd 12/21/2011, 9:43pm PST
Re: No. by Souffle of Pain 12/21/2011, 10:48pm PST
awww souffle what a sweetiepants by ndd 12/23/2011, 11:29am PST
Re: awww souffle what a sweetiepants by Souffle of Pain 12/23/2011, 3:04pm PST
Re: awww souffle what a sweetiepants by ndd 12/23/2011, 4:29pm PST
Re: No. by Mischief Maker 12/21/2011, 10:51pm PST
I have something profound to say about Christ by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/22/2011, 4:03pm PST
Re: No. by ndd 12/23/2011, 11:31am PST
Re: No. by Mischief Maker 12/23/2011, 7:38pm PST
Re: No. by ndd 12/24/2011, 8:46am PST
Re: No. by Mischief Maker 12/24/2011, 11:01am PST
See? Much better by Mysterio 12/24/2011, 2:00pm PST
I like that you're expounding on forum etiquette no-nos as a Mysterio. by Mischief Maker 12/24/2011, 3:37pm PST
That didn't last long. You're back in the slump. by Mysterio 12/24/2011, 10:42pm PST
are you trying to fix this guy or what by Mysterio 12/25/2011, 8:17am PST
Re: are you trying to fix this guy or what by Mysterio 12/25/2011, 9:23am PST
Long live the new flesh! by Mischief Maker 12/25/2011, 11:13am PST
Perhaps I should make myself more clear. by Mischief Maker 12/25/2011, 12:03pm PST
Re: Perhaps I should make myself more clear. by Mysterio 12/25/2011, 2:34pm PST
Behold, Zseni, my enemy in secular form. by Mischief Maker 12/27/2011, 6:35pm PST
no. by ndd 12/29/2011, 6:41am PST
Re: no. by Last 12/29/2011, 8:56am PST
Re: no. by ndd 01/01/2012, 9:22pm PST
What a fool I've been! Zseni, you've shown me the error of my ways. by Mischief Maker 01/02/2012, 8:51am PST
Re: What a fool I've been! Zseni, you've shown me the error of my ways. by laudablepuss 01/02/2012, 7:24pm PST
I'm going to assume that this is not representative of your professional behavio by ndd 12/24/2011, 2:41pm PST
Defensible things don't NEED to be sacred! NT by Mischief Maker 12/24/2011, 3:40pm PST
What does sacred even mean to you? NT by Gutsby 12/24/2011, 8:14pm PST
shit you don't criticize because YOU DON'T CRITICIZE NT by not misceif maker 12/24/2011, 9:09pm PST
yeah but that definition falls apart if a dude cannot think of the words by ndd 12/24/2011, 9:19pm PST
I get it. by Mischief Maker 12/24/2011, 11:14pm PST
WHY ARE YOU WORKING BACKWARDS THROUGH ALL OF THE MOST AWFUL IDEAS by ndd 12/24/2011, 11:34pm PST
if i do, they need to be identified and eliminated by not misceif maker 12/24/2011, 7:08pm PST
Re: No. by Mysterio 12/23/2011, 11:36am PST
Re: No. by laudablepuss 12/22/2011, 1:33pm PST
Re: No. by ndd 12/23/2011, 11:35am PST
I just deny Christ historic or otherwise on principle. by Worm 12/22/2011, 3:59pm PST
btw btw i got some shit to say about the laziness of civil servants by ndd 12/21/2011, 9:44pm PST
Re: btw btw i got some shit to say about the laziness of civil servants by Arbit 12/22/2011, 3:02pm PST
When I die and go to Hell... by FoK 12/22/2011, 4:04pm PST
Re: When I die and go to Hell... by Mysterio 12/23/2011, 11:06am PST
sorry that was me. i'm really tired. :( NT by ndd 12/23/2011, 11:19am PST
quadratic time complexity by Entropy Stew 12/24/2011, 9:52pm PST
Holy shit, I wrote this? by laudablepuss 03/24/2014, 12:56pm PDT
I think I want to keep some insults I threw at Worm though. by laudablepuss 03/24/2014, 1:17pm PDT
Jesus still is only about as historically verified as Thor. NT by Worm 03/24/2014, 4:56pm PDT
Believe whatever mofucking shit you want to believe in you mofucker NT by But believe in something, mofucker 03/24/2014, 7:51pm PDT
No, this isn't true. This isn't true at all. NT by John Gulp 03/24/2014, 10:15pm PDT
Sure it is, when we use the "Historical Jesus" standard for truth. NT by Worm 03/24/2014, 10:27pm PDT
I thought his Crucifixion was verifiable. by John Gulp 03/24/2014, 10:38pm PDT
The crucifixion is entirely drawn from Psalms and other sources by laudablepuss 03/26/2014, 10:05am PDT
So I don't understand by John Gulp 03/26/2014, 11:56am PDT
Worm was saying that, Tdarcos was saying that by laudablepuss 03/26/2014, 1:07pm PDT
Jesus is hogging this thread by Mischief Maker 12/20/2011, 9:06am PST
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