Forum Overview :: Dr. Dan Buroker, M.D.'s Team Fortress 2
 
Re: Obligatory Monty link by Zseni 09/20/2007, 9:07pm PDT
Lizard_King wrote:

With Korean dominance of Starcraft as a shining example of the high end and obnoxious 12 year olds who memorize every multiplayer level in Halo as the low end, even people with few Real Life reasons not to game as often as they like feel diminishing returns when playing a video game turns into the equivalent of a varsity level sport, with all of the baggage that comes with that.


Or you could not play ladder games.

Video games flatten the amateur/professional dichotomy, because the best players in the world are playing on the same servers as the worst players in the world. Maybe there's not enough being done to ensure that amateurs get to enjoy their amateur status, but also: even amateurs get their asses kicked a lot by other amateurs in amateur sports. Even in Little League, there are teams that win and teams that lose.

I dunno, maybe it's me. I used to watch my brother clear servers out in Quake 2 - he never got kicked, he was obviously not cheating, but he would just play everyone else under the table and they would get their video game turned into the equivalent of a varsity level sport with all of the baggage that comes with that. (He was 12 at the time?) But the people he played just went to other servers.

I like to play WoW PVP from level 40-59, but not below (where twinks live) or above (where raid gearhogs live.) Some fucking idiot on Caltrops informed me that I was playing the game wrong because I liked to play PVP at any level but level 70, which is the "real game." I don't want to play at 70! Because I don't want to do raids all the time. I want to play at 49, where nobody has a full kit of Tier 1,000,000,000 gear. I lose when the point of the game is to get the best gear, and I win when the point of the game is to love the taste of blood. People who hate it when I just fucking own them over and over again have the option of levelling past my window! Or staying below it. Better gear beats Zseni every time!

But Funny Arcade Man wasn't saying "I hate having to lose." He was saying "I hate having to try." Because even now you can play Starcraft games against non-Korean opponents, Quake 2 games against non-Zseni's Brother opponents, and WoW PVP against non-Zseni opponents. I'm guessing that his time-to-suck bar is set rather lower than Korean Starcraft Emerges and he gets pissy as soon as his kills are at -1. My totally correct hatred for this dude is intensified by his intense personal involvement with video games. He writes the most famous webcomic in the world about them! He goes to cons for them! He HAS BEEN PART OF THE VIDEO-GAME-MAKING PROCESS! And he just can't stand it when the professionals move in!

The pre-professional phase of the game is dominated by ignorance and luck. He freely admits that this is the reason why he likes it. That's contemptible. Monty Cantsin was right about guys like that; if anything, he was too generous.
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paney arcraed's reaction to Team Fortress 2. by Jhoh Clbbl O_____O 09/18/2007, 2:31pm PDT NEW
    Oh wait, they actually did post about it. by Jhoh Clbbl O_____O 09/19/2007, 4:55pm PDT NEW
        So is he saying that he only likes games until people are good at them? NT by Zseni 09/19/2007, 5:26pm PDT NEW
            You like them better once X game's version of bunny hopping kicks in? by Lizard_King 09/20/2007, 6:22am PDT NEW
                Re: You like them better once X game's version of bunny hopping kicks in? by Zseni 09/20/2007, 6:54am PDT NEW
                    I'm not sure playing a video game and becoming a monk are analogous. by Lizard_King 09/20/2007, 7:44am PDT NEW
                        Obligatory Monty link by Entropy Stew 09/20/2007, 10:35am PDT NEW
                            Re: Obligatory Monty link by Lizard_King 09/20/2007, 11:44am PDT NEW
                                Lizard_King, you've already won this argument. You don't have to keep respond NT by Last 09/20/2007, 12:20pm PDT NEW
                                    Put LK and MC into a particle accelerator and you'll get something interesting NT by Entropy Stew 09/20/2007, 12:35pm PDT NEW
                                So, games are more fun when played with opponents of similar skill-levels? by Jerry Whorebach 09/20/2007, 2:09pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: So, games are more fun when played with opponents of similar skill-levels? by Ice Cream Jonsey 09/20/2007, 2:19pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: So, games are more fun when played with opponents of similar skill-levels? by Jhoh Clbbl O_____O 09/20/2007, 2:40pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: So, games are more fun when played with opponents of similar skill-levels? by Ice Cream Jonsey 09/20/2007, 2:56pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: So, games are more fun when played with opponents of similar skill-levels? by Jhoh Clbbl O_____O 09/20/2007, 5:51pm PDT NEW
                                    Yeah. by Lizard_King 09/20/2007, 8:14pm PDT NEW
                                        Heaven forbid either of us has to admit to sucking at video games :( NT by Jerry Whorebach 09/20/2007, 9:18pm PDT NEW
                                            Good thing I'm awesome at video games so I don't have to. NT by Jhoh Clbbl O_____O 09/20/2007, 9:19pm PDT NEW
                                Re: Obligatory Monty link by Zseni 09/20/2007, 9:07pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: Obligatory Monty link by Jhoh Clbbl O_____O 09/20/2007, 9:18pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: Obligatory Monty link by Zseni 09/20/2007, 9:51pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: Obligatory Monty link by Kered "Hooftothehead" G'slorp'durrr 09/21/2007, 12:00am PDT NEW
                                    Re: Obligatory Monty link by Bananadine 09/21/2007, 3:06am PDT NEW
 
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