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by Lizard_King 03/09/2007, 8:45am PST |
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Flavio wrote:
"Metal Gear Solid: not meant to be a stealth game" - Lizard King, game expert (moreso than "most people")
Metal Gear Solid: Much more than a stealth game. I can go with that, if that's ok with you, since that's what I actually said. As opposed to, say, Splinter Cell, where anything but stealth is punished and unworkable with the game mechanics. But I suppose you thought you were being stealthy when you chopped down hundreds of enemy troops in a pitched battle, right?
This really comes down to you objecting to stealth as a genre period, except for possibly the much vaunted Thief for which everyone seems to have a nostalgia hardon when the subject arises. I agree with you to a point, which is why I think MGS's combination approach is the only way it can succeed. I think more actiony updates like that upcoming stealth game that promises fast paced judo chops and shit are the way to go, as well as MGS4's proto-insurgency approach (RIPPED FROM TODAY'S HEADLINES!).
Resident Evil never had a compelling enough atmosphere going for it to justify the spartan survival horror gameplay - aside from the "fresh for 1996" original - so they had to change something. The atmosphere? Fussbett's link to the early poor man's Silent Hill build told us that wouldn't have worked, so instead they ramped up the gameplay to "action". Resident Evil was more about zombie blasting than nuanced horror so it worked. If you can think of a way Silent Hill would be improved by turning it into an action game please do share. Personally I think the series is stagnating because they've been slacking on story and scares, not because there's no time attack mode.
Ah, nuance. Well, here's one for you. Not having a protagonist control like complete shit does not make a game an FPS. Killing you as a result of poor controls is not survival horror, it's lousy gamemaking. You may put up with it in SH (as opposed to the countless J horrors that you can't defend) because you like the story so much, but to pretend it is a feature is self delusion.
A brighter future than enjoying JRPGs that play the game for you? No, that's pretty much the pinnacle of that genre. I fully expect upcoming FF's to be borderline action games with stats, and I can live with that. |
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Biohazard 4: Was *this* it? by Schadenfreude 02/21/2007, 9:04pm PST 
Resident Evil 4 is not a FPS by Flavio 02/22/2007, 12:12am PST 
Re: Resident Evil 4 is not a FPS by Quentin Beck 02/22/2007, 4:16am PST 
Re: Resident Evil 4 is not a FPS by Lizard_King 02/22/2007, 7:07am PST 
5 should have strafing sure. by Jhoh Cable o_O 02/22/2007, 9:59am PST 
Spoiler above! I only narrowly stopped reading in time to sidestep it. NT by Jack "Mobile" Alabama, Action Hero 02/22/2007, 12:38pm PST 
also it's about time Silent Hill got a jump button (double jump would be better) NT by Flavio 02/22/2007, 4:34pm PST 
It's about time Silent Hill was a playable game, sure. by Lizard_King 03/06/2007, 11:21pm PST 
As playable as Metal Gear Solid's control scheme? NT by Flavio 03/07/2007, 2:22am PST 
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH USING X TO DRAW AND SHOOT. by Lizard_King 03/07/2007, 4:42am PST 
Re: THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH USING X TO DRAW AND SHOOT. by Flavio 03/07/2007, 5:34am PST 
Re: THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH USING X TO DRAW AND SHOOT. by the author space 03/07/2007, 1:51pm PST 
little Fahbsy? Katana fetish? NT by is this Zseni? 03/07/2007, 8:46pm PST 
Actually that was my ator by Lizard_King 03/08/2007, 12:56pm PST 
Congratulations on finally mimicking her writing style then by Flavio 03/08/2007, 6:21pm PST 
I'm sorry you are so haunted by your fears. by Lizard_King 03/09/2007, 8:45am PST 
You're making the same point I intended to make back up there! by Schadenfreude 03/10/2007, 8:58pm PST 
Re: You're making the same point I intended to make back up there! by Flabby-o 03/10/2007, 9:58pm PST 
Re: You're making the same point I intended to make back up there! by Lizard_King 03/14/2007, 5:20am PDT 
Donny Richmond NT by Taylor Riddle 10/07/2007, 11:06am PDT 
I WARNED YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN, DIDN'T I? NOW YOU *WISH* ME AND BDR WERE HERE! NT by SENATOR BARDORITO OFFICIAL GAME DEV 10/07/2007, 11:36am PDT 
THEY DID IT!! YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!! NT by Mischief Maker 10/07/2007, 12:42pm PDT 
Re: Resident Evil 4 is not a FPS by Schadenfreude 02/24/2007, 7:27pm PST 
Re: Resident Evil 4 is not a FPS by Flavio 03/07/2007, 9:57pm PST 
Actually, Sammy Davis Jr. did that as part of his act :( NT by Jerry Whorebach 03/07/2007, 11:01pm PST 
Sammy Davis Jr. was not human NT by Flavio 03/08/2007, 5:57pm PST 
Sample size too small to judge all versions. by Fussbett 02/23/2007, 11:25pm PST 
I must give them even more props than before by Fullofkittens 02/23/2007, 11:39pm PST 
canada home NT by canadahomeda 01/26/2008, 11:05pm PST 
QFT by Jerry Whorebach 01/26/2008, 11:52pm PST 
grats, you bought the worst possible version of the game :( NT by Grumah 01/27/2008, 10:32am PST 
Where were you 11 months ago, man?! We needed you!!! NT by Fussbett 01/27/2008, 1:20pm PST 
You don't wanna know. 8( NT by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 01/28/2008, 3:45pm PST 
I was also surprised to see I had not already posted to this thread back then NT by Grumah 01/28/2008, 6:41pm PST 
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