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Previous response brought to you by vodka; disregard by Entropy Stew 02/21/2006, 5:12am PST
Fussbett wrote:

Entropy Stew wrote:

Aircraft: INVULNERABLE to anti-aircraft fire. Why did we spend so fucking much on stealth, anyhow?

The Jets are invulnerable to AA? What? And to the part about stealth... What?

Fussbett Recap:

I don't know what that means, but I'll address your title: Contrary to the way you want to play, it actually IS acceptable that a jet with BOMBS and MISSILES and a helicopter with TWIN MINIGUNS dominates kevlar-wearing sacks of meat.

What my reply meant: No, aircraft do not automatically dominate infantry. If they did, the US would never send in ground troops. Jets are great at taking out strategic targets (artillery, uav shed, base raping) and maintaining air superiority, and are decent at providing close air support. They are vulnerable to AA fire, which is why you have stealth bombers and shit going in and taking out the AA first thing in a war. Helicopters are great anti-tank, good anti-infantry, and very mobile troop transports. Annoyingly, they are vulnerable to both AA and small arms fire (see: Black Hawk Down). When the game does not match up, you have imbalances.

Pre-patch, the heli was vulnerable to small arms in the barest sense (I would expect an anti-tank round to put up big numbers against a heli), and aircraft simply could not be hit enough to warrant manning an AA site. I think I've done more damage to aircraft with my fucking sniper rifle than with missiles. You look at your target, it locks on, you fire, the plane drops flares, the missile misses, and the plane is gone. WTF? Against a decent pilot, I could hit maybe once per half-hour.

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    DICE continues to wage war on the air assets. by Fussbett 12/14/2005, 6:14am PST NEW
        Re: DICE continues to wage war on the air assets. by Fabsy 12/14/2005, 1:44pm PST NEW
            Hitting jets is hard, flying jets is hard. by Fussbett 12/17/2005, 2:39am PST NEW
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                Re: Dolphin Diving, Sprint Exploit, and Prone Spamming? by Xalifhaz 02/15/2006, 10:56pm PST NEW
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        Once again worng is incorrect by Fabsy 12/14/2005, 1:32pm PST NEW
            So, like Fussbett said, you think two out of three are for historical accuracy? by Worm 12/14/2005, 8:22pm PST NEW
                Re: So, like Fussbett said, you think two out of three are for historical accura by Fabsy 12/14/2005, 9:16pm PST NEW
                    As a Taoist I must religiously abstain from ladders. Sorry. by Worm 12/14/2005, 9:26pm PST NEW
                        Thank you, WOPR by Entropy Stew 12/15/2005, 6:05pm PST NEW
                            As long as it's not a ladder you guys shove up there. NT by Worm 12/15/2005, 9:20pm PST NEW
                            recap? by Worm 12/16/2005, 4:17pm PST NEW
    Re: upcoming 1.2 patch - The death of bunnyhopping by Reichsminister Doktor Goebbels 12/16/2005, 10:41pm PST NEW
    More on the 1.2 patch. by Fussbett 01/23/2006, 6:20pm PST NEW
        Re: More on the 1.2 patch. by trkdup 02/07/2006, 6:58pm PST NEW
        update to this update by Bourgeoisvio 02/07/2006, 9:41pm PST NEW
            Plus this by Fussbett 02/07/2006, 11:27pm PST NEW
    out on the 15th, final changes by Flavio 02/14/2006, 12:46pm PST NEW
        I'm excited. by Fussbett 02/14/2006, 4:36pm PST NEW
            The new sniper rifle is fairly badass by Bodybag 02/14/2006, 7:32pm PST NEW
                Why do you compare it to the M24 and not the M95? NT by Fussbett 02/14/2006, 9:18pm PST NEW
                    It doesn't shoot through glass for one :( by Bodybag 02/14/2006, 11:35pm PST NEW
                        Well I guess I won't unlock it. by Fussbett 02/15/2006, 3:11am PST NEW
                            BULB by Entropy Stew 02/15/2006, 7:21pm PST NEW
                                The M95 isn't an expansion unlock! Carry on NOT buying Special Forces! NT by Fussbett 02/15/2006, 8:08pm PST NEW
                                    And be a second class citizen? Fuck you, patrician NT by Entropy Stew 02/15/2006, 11:44pm PST NEW
            Whatever, flyboy. You're going down! NT by Flavio 02/14/2006, 8:12pm PST NEW
                I think that was the point of my post :( NT by Fussbett 02/14/2006, 8:17pm PST NEW
            wait I just read this by Flavio 02/14/2006, 11:12pm PST NEW
    My 1.2 review by Fussbett 02/15/2006, 3:08pm PST NEW
        one thing I've run into by Flavio 02/15/2006, 3:34pm PST NEW
        Re: My 1.2 review by Bodybag 02/15/2006, 4:43pm PST NEW
            AA by Bodybag 02/17/2006, 7:35pm PST NEW
                Re: AA by Flavio 02/17/2006, 9:39pm PST NEW
                    Miniguns: why do they shoot so much? by Fussbett 02/17/2006, 10:51pm PST NEW
                        Re: Miniguns: why do they shoot so much? by Bodybag 02/18/2006, 10:26am PST NEW
                        Unacceptable: Jets and Blackhawks no longer dominating rounds by Flavio 02/18/2006, 12:19pm PST NEW
                            I disagree NT by The 21st Century NHL Playoffs 02/18/2006, 2:04pm PST NEW
                                6201!!! NT by Mister Zing 02/18/2006, 2:48pm PST NEW
                            Re: Unacceptable: Jets and Blackhawks no longer dominating rounds by Fussbett 02/18/2006, 3:27pm PST NEW
                                WAHHHHHHHH by Entropy Stew 02/18/2006, 5:02pm PST NEW
                                    I'm not the one crying, I'm the one loving the game, palz. by Fussbett 02/19/2006, 2:39am PST NEW
                                        Re: I'm not the one crying, I'm the one loving the game, palz. by Entropy Stew 02/19/2006, 4:19am PST NEW
                                            Duh. Jets can't capture flags. NT by Worm 02/19/2006, 10:36am PST NEW
                                            Previous response brought to you by vodka; disregard by Entropy Stew 02/21/2006, 5:12am PST NEW
                                                Vodka and Red Alert Mountain Dew? by Fussbett 02/21/2006, 11:22am PST NEW
                                                    Re: Vodka and Red Alert Mountain Dew? by Flavio 02/24/2006, 4:07pm PST NEW
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                                            I don't get all these weekend references by Fussbett 02/19/2006, 8:45pm PST NEW
                                                That's unfortunate (like balanced jets and blackhawks) NT by Flavio 02/20/2006, 1:20am PST NEW
                claymores by Fussbett 02/17/2006, 11:35pm PST NEW
                    PSH more like GAYMORES NT by Bodybag 02/19/2006, 9:02pm PST NEW
                        Are you sure it's not more like MAYCLORES? NT by Fussbett 02/20/2006, 3:19pm PST NEW
                            If this is a swear then it's not one I'm familiar with :( NT by Tony Danza = Tiny Dancer 02/20/2006, 5:54pm PST NEW
 
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