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Re: Calling guys what now anything about AD&D's 3E rules by laudablepuss 08/29/2003, 12:34am PDT
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

laudablepuss wrote:

It doesn't suck any more or less than the justification that "metal screws up magic" or "the yoga positions needed for magic are impossible in armor". Now it's just "the yoga positions required for magic are hard to do in armor". All gay.


Yeah, but it's a game. The magic vs armor thing is great for balance even if it's artificial. Magic users needing their fighter buddies to survive long enough to become powerful where they, then, protect their fighter buddies is the thing I loved most about D&D. I spend a lot of time in the world of jocks and the world of geeks and if you are weak, initially, playing football you get your ass cut from the team. It's over. If your character is weak in D&D and your friends have your back then you can eventually rise in power and fuck some serious shit up for them. I don't know. I always thought the teamwork aspects of it, when going from a level one character to a level 12 or 13 was when the game was the most fun.

the dark and gritty...Ice Cream Jonsey!


Eh. They get 1-4 hitpoints every level and a base-to-hit that sucks ass. Their main scores are in Intelligence or Charisma, so they're usually pretty weak, too. Also, full plate armor is way too expensive for low level characters, and the nice suits they find end up going to the fighters first.

Anyway, the fact that you have to give up a feat to use armor effectively is detterent enough for most people. I suppose that a high-level wizard with magical plate armor would be pretty badass. But that's when I send in the magic-resistant Iron Golems. What's he going to do, slug it out? I need to make an army of Golems anyway for my brother's fucking weapon master. He critically hits every other attack. I had a dragon sit on him, that was pretty funny. I lined him and the other tough fighter in the party up as an ad hoc landing pad, but she made her save and didn't become a comfy dragon cushion. These are the joys of DMing, I guess.

(I should mention that I don't like the rule, but I haven't yet revoked it. It really hasn't come up yet since the only mages in our part are thief/mages (or in one case a thief/assassin/mage) and my cleric/mage made himself some Celestial Chain armor, so he's got a small chance of spell failure anyway. Plus it'd look bad to give my guy and my guy alone a break here.)
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Calling guys what now anything about AD&D's 3E rules by Bill Dungsroman 08/28/2003, 5:22pm PDT NEW
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        Re: Calling guys what now anything about AD&D's 3E rules by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/28/2003, 7:21pm PDT NEW
            Re: Calling guys what now anything about AD&D's 3E rules by laudablepuss 08/29/2003, 12:34am PDT NEW
                Re: Calling guys what now anything about AD&D's 3E rules by foogla 08/29/2003, 7:22am PDT NEW
                    Re: Calling guys what now anything about AD&D's 3E rules by laudablepuss 08/29/2003, 12:26pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Calling guys what now anything about AD&D's 3E rules by Bill Dungsroman 08/29/2003, 1:00pm PDT NEW
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