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I like FFT, Tactics Ogre blew by FABIO 08/06/2003, 4:15am PDT
The whole fun of FFT was cultivating a wide variety of abilities for your party from amongst the many jobs available. Tactics Ogre is lacking in this; you get a large number of jobs but no abilities you can learn and carry over with you. If you're a wizard, you cast spells and that's it. A fighter, you're strong with swords, nothing more. The most you get is with some of the fancier classes you got some negligable passive abilities (all friendly monsters within a radius receive a bonus, all enemy fighters get lowered attack accuracy, etc.). When you gain a level you go up in the area you're currently a class for (fighter gains strength, wizard gains magic ability, etc.) but that's it. No mixing ninja movement abilities with monk counter-attacks while leaping 20 spaces across the battlefield as a Dragoon. And of course there's already the gay and tedious levelling system mentioned, as well as the horribly unforgiving deaths.

The only good point about Tactics Ogre is its ability to have many widely branching plotlines while still maintaining a decent story, unlike other games where plot branches are either minor or the story waters itself down to keep up with all the possibilities (being allowed to take 10 characters into battle is also another nice point, but you still end up having less options than FFT). It's just that the tediousness of levelling and the lack of options with classes made getting through the plot such a chore.

FFT suffers from a convoluted (and somewhat non-linear compared to Tactics Ogre) plot but that's it. It's far superior to TO in every other way. The team who worked on TO went on to make the game fun and the result was FFT. To say that if you like FFT then you'll also like TO is like saying if you're a fan of Deus Ex than you'll LOVE System Shock 2; the former is an example of a formula done correctly while the latter was an earlier, failed attempt.
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    Of course I'm always right by FABIO 08/04/2003, 6:35pm PDT NEW
        Re: Of course I'm always right by Mischief Maker 08/05/2003, 2:13pm PDT NEW
            also: DO NOT BUY TACTICS OGRE by FABIO 08/05/2003, 2:57pm PDT NEW
                FEED ME A STRAY CAT NT by TACTICS OGRE 08/05/2003, 4:35pm PDT NEW
                    I suppose you're expecting me to defend Tactics Ogre by Vissarion 08/06/2003, 2:36am PDT NEW
                        You know what I hate? by Mr. Cranky 08/06/2003, 3:39am PDT NEW
                            Re: You know what I hate? by Vissarion 08/06/2003, 1:56pm PDT NEW
                        I like FFT, Tactics Ogre blew by FABIO 08/06/2003, 4:15am PDT NEW
                            We get it. You hate System Shock 2. NT by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 4:21am PDT NEW
                                He's also right about SS2. by curst 08/06/2003, 9:31am PDT NEW
                                    Re: FFT by Entropy Stew 08/06/2003, 9:58am PDT NEW
                                        Re: FFT by FABIO 08/06/2003, 1:27pm PDT NEW
                                We get it. You're a horrible writer by FABIO 08/06/2003, 1:19pm PDT NEW
                                    Fabio takes cheap pot shot. Forum stunned. by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 2:15pm PDT NEW
                                        Like your oh so clever SS2 reference? by FABIO 08/06/2003, 3:12pm PDT NEW
                                            Just trying to get a few extra miles out of a dead fucking horse. by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 3:29pm PDT NEW
                                                THIS SHOULD BE A CARTOON!! NT by Roop Dirump 08/06/2003, 3:34pm PDT NEW
                                                    Johnson Vs. Fabio: WHO CAN MAKE THE OTHER ONE FEEL BAD FIRST? NT by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 3:40pm PDT NEW
                                                        DRAWING THEIR COCKS WITH VERY SMOOTH LINES! H O T ! NT by Roop Dirump 08/06/2003, 4:17pm PDT NEW
                                                your love life? HURR HURR HURF by FABIO 08/06/2003, 4:12pm PDT NEW
                                                    It's time for the *PERFECT* ANALOGY! NT by Spartan Cheerleader 08/06/2003, 4:16pm PDT NEW
                                                        I hope you choke on that cock NT by Entropy Stew 08/06/2003, 6:55pm PDT NEW
                                                            Don't worry! There's plenty of room! NT by Spartan Cheerleader 08/06/2003, 6:57pm PDT NEW
                                                        Mrs. J : writer :: Imari Stevenson : Game designer NT by FABIO 08/07/2003, 3:35am PDT NEW
                                                    Out of material? by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 7:38pm PDT NEW
                                                        Re: Out of material? by Choson 08/06/2003, 8:12pm PDT NEW
                                                            I know that poetry was awful garbage. I just have a good time writing it. NT by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 8:26pm PDT NEW
                                                                You're holding out on us, aren't you? Keeping all the good stuff to yourself. by Choson 08/06/2003, 8:35pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Nobody forces you to clickity click on the link. NT by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 8:41pm PDT NEW
                                                                        So true. NT by Choson 08/06/2003, 8:51pm PDT NEW
                                                                            are you done with him, Choson? Tag me back in NT by FABIO 08/07/2003, 3:30am PDT NEW
                                                                                I think Choson just lost the match for you. NT by Guerilla Monsoon 08/07/2003, 3:45am PDT NEW
                                                                                    So true #2 by Choson 08/07/2003, 8:05am PDT NEW
                                                        Suddenly a mushroom jumps up from behind the bushes! by Wacky Willy 08/07/2003, 10:27am PDT NEW
            Re: Of course I'm always right by Flurgendorf J. Creexul 08/06/2003, 4:13am PDT NEW
 
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