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god dammit people by FABIO 08/04/2003, 7:12pm PDT
Quit recommending Tactics Ogre all the time and making extra work for me as I try to save the poor soul from buying it. I cant find the thread where I made a detailed outline on why it sucks, so here's a short recap.


-Gay turn order

This is what absolutely killed it. Characters do not act based on speed or initiative. Instead each side takes turns and every character on that side gets to move or attack in that turn, then the other person gets to move and attack with everyone, repeat. Not only is this gay, but it makes it so no matter how well you position your guys, you will probably end up losing one or two of them since the entire other team can gang up on them in one turn. Gay

-Harsh death

In the TO games, a character dies the instant they hit zero hit points, no getting 3 rounds to revive them. You cannot revive characters until late in the game. Once the guy hits zero hit points, he's GONE. They also suffer from the same aspect of FF:Tactics where you absolutely CANNOT afford to lose any of your developed characters, as new recruits will be worthless level 1 dinks. Couple this with the fact that since the entire enemy team can go at once every turn, you CANNOT protect your character no matter how well you position him, he'll just get ganged up on by 4 or more guys and killed in a single turn before you even get to go.

-The Story?

Eh, no clue. I couldn't stick long enough with the frustratingly shitty combat to get that far in it. So hell for all I know this could be one of those RPG's that starts to "shine" 5+ hours into it. So if you feel like taking that gamble be my guest. I also didnt play long enough to determine if it uses the PSX Tactic Ogre's gay levelling system where someone is twice as powerful as a character one level lower, and the only way to gain experience is to hit or kill a character of equal or higher level.


Final Verdict:

Just wait until Final Fantasy Tactics Advance comes out in another month or two. My friend just started the japanese ROM and so far the verdict is good. Apparently the first tutorial battle takes place with your characters as children having a snowball fight during recess. Neato
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GBA games suck by Mischief Maker 08/03/2003, 10:24pm PDT NEW
    Re: GBA games suck by K. Thor Jensen 08/04/2003, 10:16am PDT NEW
        Re: GBA games suck by Mischief Maker 08/05/2003, 2:11pm PDT NEW
    River City Remake by Vissarion 08/04/2003, 12:55pm PDT NEW
        god dammit people by FABIO 08/04/2003, 7:12pm PDT NEW
    Of course I'm always right by FABIO 08/04/2003, 6:35pm PDT NEW
        Re: Of course I'm always right by Mischief Maker 08/05/2003, 2:13pm PDT NEW
            also: DO NOT BUY TACTICS OGRE by FABIO 08/05/2003, 2:57pm PDT NEW
                FEED ME A STRAY CAT NT by TACTICS OGRE 08/05/2003, 4:35pm PDT NEW
                    I suppose you're expecting me to defend Tactics Ogre by Vissarion 08/06/2003, 2:36am PDT NEW
                        You know what I hate? by Mr. Cranky 08/06/2003, 3:39am PDT NEW
                            Re: You know what I hate? by Vissarion 08/06/2003, 1:56pm PDT NEW
                        I like FFT, Tactics Ogre blew by FABIO 08/06/2003, 4:15am PDT NEW
                            We get it. You hate System Shock 2. NT by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 4:21am PDT NEW
                                He's also right about SS2. by curst 08/06/2003, 9:31am PDT NEW
                                    Re: FFT by Entropy Stew 08/06/2003, 9:58am PDT NEW
                                        Re: FFT by FABIO 08/06/2003, 1:27pm PDT NEW
                                We get it. You're a horrible writer by FABIO 08/06/2003, 1:19pm PDT NEW
                                    Fabio takes cheap pot shot. Forum stunned. by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 2:15pm PDT NEW
                                        Like your oh so clever SS2 reference? by FABIO 08/06/2003, 3:12pm PDT NEW
                                            Just trying to get a few extra miles out of a dead fucking horse. by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 3:29pm PDT NEW
                                                THIS SHOULD BE A CARTOON!! NT by Roop Dirump 08/06/2003, 3:34pm PDT NEW
                                                    Johnson Vs. Fabio: WHO CAN MAKE THE OTHER ONE FEEL BAD FIRST? NT by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 3:40pm PDT NEW
                                                        DRAWING THEIR COCKS WITH VERY SMOOTH LINES! H O T ! NT by Roop Dirump 08/06/2003, 4:17pm PDT NEW
                                                your love life? HURR HURR HURF by FABIO 08/06/2003, 4:12pm PDT NEW
                                                    It's time for the *PERFECT* ANALOGY! NT by Spartan Cheerleader 08/06/2003, 4:16pm PDT NEW
                                                        I hope you choke on that cock NT by Entropy Stew 08/06/2003, 6:55pm PDT NEW
                                                            Don't worry! There's plenty of room! NT by Spartan Cheerleader 08/06/2003, 6:57pm PDT NEW
                                                        Mrs. J : writer :: Imari Stevenson : Game designer NT by FABIO 08/07/2003, 3:35am PDT NEW
                                                    Out of material? by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 7:38pm PDT NEW
                                                        Re: Out of material? by Choson 08/06/2003, 8:12pm PDT NEW
                                                            I know that poetry was awful garbage. I just have a good time writing it. NT by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 8:26pm PDT NEW
                                                                You're holding out on us, aren't you? Keeping all the good stuff to yourself. by Choson 08/06/2003, 8:35pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Nobody forces you to clickity click on the link. NT by mrs. johnson 08/06/2003, 8:41pm PDT NEW
                                                                        So true. NT by Choson 08/06/2003, 8:51pm PDT NEW
                                                                            are you done with him, Choson? Tag me back in NT by FABIO 08/07/2003, 3:30am PDT NEW
                                                                                I think Choson just lost the match for you. NT by Guerilla Monsoon 08/07/2003, 3:45am PDT NEW
                                                                                    So true #2 by Choson 08/07/2003, 8:05am PDT NEW
                                                        Suddenly a mushroom jumps up from behind the bushes! by Wacky Willy 08/07/2003, 10:27am PDT NEW
            Re: Of course I'm always right by Flurgendorf J. Creexul 08/06/2003, 4:13am PDT NEW
 
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