|
by Bill Dungsroman 06/28/2003, 4:35am PDT |
|
 |
|
 |
|
Damocles wrote:
Actually, I may rethink it- for some reason I had thought that BG2 required some sort of video horsepower, and the video on this machine I'm using right now is some sort of gay onboard crap.
It's funny you say that, because I thought for a few months that BG2 was out of my league, too, and then I read the box. I guess it just seems like it would be system hog, with all that goes on in it.
Damocles wrote:
Plus, and I hadn't mentioned this before, but I never got that far into BG1, and I have this perverse need to finish a game before playing its sequel. This even includes Final Fantasy games, despite being completely unrelated.
Your OCD matches mine. BG1 blows, though. When there was nothing else, and I mean nothing, it was alright. Now, though...but you could blow through BG1 in a fair amount of time, if you care to ignore all the pointless wooded areas and plow through the main story. Still, the IE engine in its infancy is pretty bad.
Damocles wrote:
As you quoted below, 3rd Ed. was an attempt to address that- partially by making fighters more flexible, partially by rebalancing how XP works, partially by making Fighters a hell of a lot deadlier at any given level, and (for really high levels) by adding that weird epic stuff that turns everybody into a demigod past 20th level.
Actually, if I were playing 3rd edition right now, I'd be either a Sorcerer or a Monk. Sorcerers because of the sheer glorious perversity of having Charisma as a spellcasting attribute, and Monks because they literally become extraplanar beings after 20th level.
Funny you say that. I've just started IWD2 (bought it with Dungeon Siege - hey, you get PACK MULES - and Morrowind because Monty told me to) and I've got 2 Sorcs and a Monk in my party. Monk is the wiz killer, and one sorc is the town leader (with all those commerce/interpesonal feats and such).
Damocles wrote:
Weird, that, because I'd say 3E Bards are useless outside of parties simply because their songs are most useful when supporting other players. (Kind of like D2 paladins and their auras). Honestly I've never been that fond of "jacks of all trades"- either they get overwhelmed by their inability to excel in any one activity, or (especiallyin the case of fighter/mages) lag so far behind in level that they're "versatile" lunchmeat for anything of remotely appropriate level.
(Now fighter/clerics... those make sense. Smiting for the Lord has never felt so good.)
Yeah. As my gay review attests, I championed the bard for IWD, but even as a party member, his usefulness has paled in the 3Ed rules system. A rogue level here, a ranger level there, it's all taken care of. 3Ed is for making overbearing badasses, it seems, so who needs Uncle Larry anymore?
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
|
|
What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by Bill Dungsroman 06/16/2003, 12:47am PDT 
You could order Gothic 2 from GoGamer! NT by Roop Dirump 06/16/2003, 12:54am PDT 
Can you give me a quick Gothic 1 strat guide? by Bill Dungsroman 06/19/2003, 1:29pm PDT 
Re: Can you give me a quick Gothic 1 strat guide? by Roop Dirump 06/21/2003, 2:26pm PDT 
Re: Can you give me a quick Gothic 1 strat guide? by Lizard_King 06/22/2003, 10:50pm PDT 
Gothic II by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/25/2003, 1:55pm PDT 
I'd get it based on having played Gothic I by Entropy Stew 06/25/2003, 6:24pm PDT 
Bah...this thread is too large to keep track of by Lizard_King 06/26/2003, 12:49pm PDT 
Bah...this thread is too large to keep track of by Lizard_King 06/26/2003, 12:57pm PDT 
I see now it is the back button on my mouse that causes double posts.NT by Lizard_King 06/26/2003, 1:05pm PDT 
Expansion due in August! by Roop Dirump 06/26/2003, 1:32pm PDT 
Re: Expansion due in August! by Bill Dungsroman 06/26/2003, 1:49pm PDT 
Re: Expansion due in August! by Roop Dirump 06/28/2003, 1:38pm PDT 
Re: Expansion due in August! by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/26/2003, 1:59pm PDT 
Dark Ages of Camelot over here by Senor Barborito 06/16/2003, 12:56am PDT 
Self-corrections by Senor Barborito 06/16/2003, 1:09pm PDT 
Re: Self-corrections by Monty Cantsin 06/17/2003, 1:08am PDT 
There's your Planescape: Torment short review. NT by Senor Barborito 06/17/2003, 2:02am PDT 
That was a Freudian slip if ever I saw one, dumbass. NT by Senor Barborito 06/17/2003, 11:41am PDT 
Book recommendations within Morrowind by Senor Barborito 06/17/2003, 2:49am PDT 
Big gay Morrowind gay book gay tangent GAY by Entropy Stew 06/17/2003, 3:10am PDT 
Edit by Bill Dungsroman 06/17/2003, 11:33am PDT 
Ok, You've got me seriously contemplating the YOINK thing... by Entropy Stew 06/17/2003, 2:56am PDT 
MC's Review: it's no Penny Arcade by Mr. Palomar 06/18/2003, 1:31pm PDT 
Fag. NT by Bill Dungsroman 06/18/2003, 2:45pm PDT 
Guilty as charged. NT by Mr. Palomar 06/18/2003, 3:15pm PDT 
There's your short Outlook review. by Monty Cantsin 06/19/2003, 12:07am PDT 
Wait, I meant penis. NT by Monty Cantsin 06/19/2003, 12:11am PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by Moab 06/16/2003, 1:05am PDT 
Planetside. Yes. Play Planetside. by Senor Barborito 06/16/2003, 12:07pm PDT 
brilliant marketing at work by FABIO 06/16/2003, 2:41pm PDT 
The list by SBDMT 06/16/2003, 1:37am PDT 
Re: The list by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 12:45pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by FABIO 06/16/2003, 3:11am PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by Nixon 06/16/2003, 4:05am PDT 
Old games mostly by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/16/2003, 4:22am PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by Jhoh Creexul 06/16/2003, 6:41am PDT 
Here are the games I WOULD be playing. :( by Fussbett 06/16/2003, 7:26am PDT 
GTA:VC and RoN, mostly by laudablepuss 06/16/2003, 10:53am PDT 
Re: GTA:VC and RoN, mostly by foogla 06/16/2003, 1:36pm PDT 
NWN:SoU by laudablepuss 06/16/2003, 2:53pm PDT 
3rd edition rules? by FoK 06/17/2003, 8:01am PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by laudablepuss 06/17/2003, 10:26am PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by FoK 06/20/2003, 10:41am PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by foogla 06/20/2003, 12:15pm PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by FoK, in straight-on gay mode 06/21/2003, 10:12am PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by foogla 06/21/2003, 10:43am PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by Choson 06/21/2003, 2:39pm PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by TheVacillator 06/23/2003, 3:57am PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by laudablepuss 06/20/2003, 3:54pm PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by Fullofkittens 06/21/2003, 9:58am PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by laudablepuss 06/21/2003, 5:54pm PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by Fullofkittens 06/21/2003, 7:10pm PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by laudablepuss 06/21/2003, 8:28pm PDT 
Re: 3rd edition rules? by FoK 06/21/2003, 8:37pm PDT 
No, laudable's right -nt- by Entropy Stew 06/22/2003, 1:44am PDT 
No, kittens is. (nt) by creativepig 06/22/2003, 9:54am PDT 
I declare it an INC-style victory. by FoK 06/22/2003, 10:13am PDT 
Re: I declare it an INC-style victory. by foogla 06/22/2003, 10:36am PDT 
Yes, if you put it that way (which I unfortunately did) by FoK 06/22/2003, 10:50am PDT 
Re: Yes, if you put it that way (which I unfortunately did) by FABIO 06/22/2003, 1:03pm PDT 
Re: Yes, if you put it that way (which I unfortunately did) by Bitter 06/23/2003, 1:18am PDT 
Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 for the PS2 by Fussbett 06/23/2003, 3:05pm PDT 
Re: Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 for the PS2 by foogla 06/23/2003, 4:28pm PDT 
Best Post Ever. NT by Fullofkittens 06/23/2003, 4:30pm PDT 
Re: Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 for the PS2 by Bitter 06/24/2003, 12:56am PDT 
To the rescue! by Masked Mariachi 06/21/2003, 9:25pm PDT 
amen by FABIO 06/22/2003, 12:23am PDT 
AD&D and computer games by laudablepuss 06/22/2003, 5:35am PDT 
Ah, Christ. by FoK 06/22/2003, 10:05am PDT 
Re: AD&D and computer games by FABIO 06/22/2003, 12:57pm PDT 
Starfleet Command games by Bitter 06/23/2003, 1:33am PDT 
Re: Starfleet Command games by FABIO 06/23/2003, 3:31am PDT 
Re: Starfleet Command games by foogla 06/23/2003, 5:40am PDT 
Re: Starfleet Command games by Bitter 06/24/2003, 1:04am PDT 
Re: Starfleet Command games by Bill Dungsroman 06/26/2003, 1:47pm PDT 
Interesting. by Arbit 06/25/2003, 2:46am PDT 
Re: Interesting. by FABIO 06/25/2003, 4:35am PDT 
Tried to defend spell memorization, felt too gay, deleted text. NT by FoK 06/25/2003, 9:05am PDT 
Re: Interesting. by laudablepuss 06/25/2003, 11:26am PDT 
Re: Interesting. by FABIO 06/25/2003, 12:12pm PDT 
also, good job on calculating my age by FABIO 06/25/2003, 12:14pm PDT 
I'm pretty tired of this by laudablepuss 06/25/2003, 12:55pm PDT 
then quit replying NT by FABIO 06/25/2003, 4:19pm PDT 
Am I hearing things, or did a gamer just bitch about a hobby being for kids? NT by Damocles 06/25/2003, 3:08pm PDT 
who is the scarier person? by FABIO 06/25/2003, 4:18pm PDT 
The guy playing Yu-Gi-Oh. by Damocles 06/25/2003, 4:27pm PDT 
And while on the subject of CCGs, what the FUCK is with Game of Thrones? by Damocles 06/25/2003, 4:29pm PDT 
Re: who is the scarier person? by Choson 06/25/2003, 4:41pm PDT 
FATAL (spelling) ERROR by Bill Dungsroman 06/25/2003, 5:16pm PDT 
Re: Interesting. by foogla 06/25/2003, 2:32pm PDT 
Re: Interesting. by Bill Dungsroman 06/25/2003, 2:55pm PDT 
The reasoning, in case you missed it. by FoK, giving into the faggery 06/25/2003, 3:08pm PDT 
I missed it. MUST NOT HAVE MEMORIZED IT. by Bill Dungsroman 06/25/2003, 5:33pm PDT 
Re: I missed it. MUST NOT HAVE MEMORIZED IT. by laudablepuss 06/25/2003, 6:05pm PDT 
More KERGAY analysis by Damocles 06/26/2003, 2:09am PDT 
Re: More KERGAY analysis by Bill Dungsroman 06/26/2003, 2:03pm PDT 
Our Shadowrun dreams can never come true. by Fullofkittens 06/26/2003, 10:30pm PDT 
Prepare to cry by E. L. Koba 06/27/2003, 12:26am PDT 
Re: Our Shadowrun dreams can never come true. by Damocles 06/27/2003, 2:50am PDT 
Shadowrun and Massive Multi by Damocles 06/27/2003, 2:45am PDT 
Re: Shadowrun and Massive Multi by Bill Dungsroman 06/27/2003, 12:55pm PDT 
Re: Shadowrun and Massive Multi by Damocles 06/28/2003, 2:37am PDT 
Re: Shadowrun and Massive Multi by Bill Dungsroman 06/28/2003, 4:35am PDT 
Re: Shadowrun and Massive Multi by foogla 06/28/2003, 5:05am PDT 
Re: Shadowrun and Massive Multi by Damocles 06/28/2003, 1:25pm PDT 
Monks by Fogeykittens 06/28/2003, 10:24am PDT 
Re: Monks by Damocles 06/28/2003, 1:29pm PDT 
Re: I missed it. MUST NOT HAVE MEMORIZED IT. by FoK 06/25/2003, 6:11pm PDT 
I swear I hadn't read this post before the one previous. More KERGAY. by Damocles 06/26/2003, 2:19am PDT 
Re: The reasoning, in case you missed it. by Lizard_King 06/26/2003, 12:56pm PDT 
Re: Interesting. by foogla 06/25/2003, 7:05pm PDT 
Re: Interesting. by laudablepuss 06/25/2003, 7:13pm PDT 
your penis just withered and died by FABIO 06/25/2003, 4:28pm PDT 
Pot calling the kettle queer? by Arbit 06/25/2003, 5:30pm PDT 
The stoned shouldn't throw pot at black houses by Bill Dungsroman 06/25/2003, 5:35pm PDT 
Well, I'm glad that's settled. by laudablepuss 06/25/2003, 5:40pm PDT 
You rang? by FoK, still champion. 06/25/2003, 6:00pm PDT 
Re: You rang? by laudablepuss 06/25/2003, 6:34pm PDT 
Re: You rang? by foogla 06/25/2003, 7:18pm PDT 
Re: You rang? by Damocles 06/26/2003, 2:28am PDT 
I fear not gay defenses of D&D by Damocles 06/25/2003, 3:07pm PDT 
Shadowrun: best PnP evar. by FoK 06/25/2003, 3:11pm PDT 
Yes. Also most faithful console conversion ever. by Damocles 06/25/2003, 4:26pm PDT 
So where's a cool PC Shadowrun game? by FoK 06/25/2003, 5:41pm PDT 
Re: So where's a cool PC Shadowrun game? by foogla 06/25/2003, 7:24pm PDT 
CORRECTION by Chunguo 06/19/2003, 8:57pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by curst 06/16/2003, 12:55pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 1:04pm PDT 
Hmmm by Senor Barborito 06/16/2003, 1:11pm PDT 
Re: Hmmm by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 1:22pm PDT 
Re: Hmmm by foogla 06/16/2003, 1:43pm PDT 
Re: Hmmm by FABIO 06/16/2003, 2:03pm PDT 
Heh by Senor Barborito 06/16/2003, 2:14pm PDT 
Re: Heh by FABIO 06/16/2003, 2:37pm PDT 
Because Ignus is a worthless piece of shit - use the Nameless One/Dak'kon NT by Senor Barborito 06/16/2003, 3:01pm PDT 
how is he any worse than Anna? by FABIO 06/16/2003, 4:08pm PDT 
Anna is the only videogame character I have ever jerked off to, for one. by Senor Barborito 06/16/2003, 4:58pm PDT 
I went with the angel broad instead. Or whatever the hell she is. NT by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 4:59pm PDT 
Fall-from -Grace the Tanarri. Read: Aeris mk. 2. Fuck her. I wanted Tifa. NT by Senor Barborito 06/17/2003, 2:58am PDT 
Tanar'ri. MY KLINGON IS BETTER THAN YOURSS! NT by Entropy Stew 06/17/2003, 3:21am PDT 
Thanks, couldn't remember where the apostrophe went AND I DIDN'T LOOK IT UP by Senor Barborito 06/17/2003, 3:35am PDT 
Re: Thanks, couldn't remember where the apostrophe went AND I DIDN'T LOOK IT UP by foogla 06/17/2003, 5:42am PDT 
the japanese RPG mating game by FABIO 06/17/2003, 5:25am PDT 
And people wonder why they lost the war. Two words: GENETICALLY. INFERIOR. by Obvious Troll 06/17/2003, 7:14am PDT 
Plus they can't see so well with their eyes 3/4 closed all the time. NT by Racist Troll 06/17/2003, 11:15am PDT 
YOU COULD BLINDFOLD THESE PEOPLE WITH FUCKIN DENTAL FLOSS NT by Jhoh Creexul 06/19/2003, 5:09am PDT 
Re: Heh by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 4:58pm PDT 
tell about QFG by Entropy Stew 06/16/2003, 10:46pm PDT 
Re: Heh by Bill Dungsroman 06/17/2003, 12:34am PDT 
Re: Heh by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 11:22am PDT 
Re: Heh by Bill Dungsroman 06/17/2003, 11:43am PDT 
That I did not know. Someday... NT by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:13pm PDT 
why DOES Arcanum suck? by FABIO 06/17/2003, 3:53pm PDT 
Re: why DOES Arcanum suck? by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 5:16pm PDT 
Re: why DOES Arcanum suck? by Bill Dungsroman 06/18/2003, 12:01pm PDT 
That sounds simply appalling. by Lizard_King 06/23/2003, 2:58am PDT 
Re: why DOES Arcanum suck? by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 5:20pm PDT 
Re: why DOES Arcanum suck? by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 5:21pm PDT 
Problems? NT by Entropy Stew 06/17/2003, 5:23pm PDT 
I think my FAGORT THIRD WORLD DIAL UP fucks shit up sometimes b/c it's so slow. NT by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 5:30pm PDT 
BANNED!!! NT by Wacky Willy 06/18/2003, 6:24pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by FABIO 06/16/2003, 2:26pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by laudablepuss 06/16/2003, 3:11pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by FABIO 06/16/2003, 4:04pm PDT 
But if you don't save Vance, who'll suck at WR for the Broncos? NT by laudablepuss 06/16/2003, 5:46pm PDT 
Shooting by Fussbett 06/17/2003, 8:36am PDT 
Re: Shooting by FABIO 06/17/2003, 4:04pm PDT 
You've converted me! by Fussbett 06/17/2003, 5:31pm PDT 
Re: You've converted me! by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 6:22pm PDT 
Re: You've converted me! by Fussbett 06/18/2003, 12:21am PDT 
Re: You've converted me! by E. L. Koba 06/18/2003, 12:48am PDT 
I WAS IN THE WAR! NT by Entropy Stew 06/18/2003, 12:56am PDT 
Black Ops into China, etc etc... by E. L. Koba 06/18/2003, 2:22am PDT 
Fussbett proves that....he likes Vice City? by FABIO 06/18/2003, 3:31am PDT 
YES. YES THEY WERE. by Senor Barborito 06/18/2003, 2:29pm PDT 
Re: HUMVEES and games by McMoo The AntiDrug Cow 06/18/2003, 12:36pm PDT 
Re: HUMVEES and games by McMoo The AntiDrug Cow 06/18/2003, 12:40pm PDT 
Re: HUMVEES and games by FABIO 06/18/2003, 2:07pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by laudablepuss 06/16/2003, 2:57pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by FABIO 06/16/2003, 4:24pm PDT 
NOTHING! And on that note... by Masked Man 06/16/2003, 1:04pm PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 1:17pm PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by FABIO 06/16/2003, 2:12pm PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by foogla 06/16/2003, 3:13pm PDT 
yeah the bikes were one thing I thought was better about VC by FABIO 06/16/2003, 4:07pm PDT 
I love Rez. Unfortunately... by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 4:55pm PDT 
Re: I love Rez. Unfortunately... by Jhoh Creexul 06/17/2003, 11:27am PDT 
Re: I love Rez. Unfortunately... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:14pm PDT 
Re: I love Rez. Unfortunately... by curst 06/17/2003, 3:15pm PDT 
Re: I love Rez. Unfortunately... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 5:19pm PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by No Body 06/16/2003, 4:41pm PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by curst 06/18/2003, 9:58am PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by No Body 06/18/2003, 7:06pm PDT 
Gitaroo Man plug! NT by FABIO 06/19/2003, 1:53am PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by McMoo The AntiDrug Cow 06/18/2003, 12:51pm PDT 
TRYING NOT TO DIE FROM THE SARS by K. Thor Jensen 06/19/2003, 12:20pm PDT 
You like DC2? by Lizard_King 06/19/2003, 12:25pm PDT 
appeal of Dark Cloud 2 by FABIO 06/20/2003, 2:33am PDT 
I dunno. I sure as hell couldn't find the appeal. by Lizard_King 06/22/2003, 10:51pm PDT 
yes, but perhaps that's because you're retarded by K. Thor Jensen 06/23/2003, 6:08pm PDT 
Re: yes, but perhaps that's because you're retarded by Lizard_King 06/23/2003, 9:54pm PDT 
it really is worth it by K. Thor Jensen 06/24/2003, 11:08am PDT 
I see. by Lizard_King 06/24/2003, 1:04pm PDT 
sounds like an Animal Crossings RPG NT by FABIO 06/23/2003, 10:18pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by junior allen 06/24/2003, 5:57pm PDT 
Amplitude. by Damocles 06/25/2003, 1:32am PDT 
P.O.D. is a horrible blight on music by Fussbett 06/25/2003, 2:04am PDT 
Obligatory Amplitude defense. by Damocles 06/25/2003, 2:39pm PDT 
I can't help from whence Beatmania originated. by Fussbett 06/25/2003, 11:08pm PDT 
Re: I can't help from whence Beatmania originated. by Damocles 06/26/2003, 3:02am PDT 
Re: I can't help from whence Beatmania originated. by Fussbett 06/26/2003, 5:35am PDT 
Golden Showers For All by Damocles 06/27/2003, 3:03am PDT 
Re: Obligatory Amplitude defense. by Jhoh Creexul 06/25/2003, 11:36pm PDT 
Re: Obligatory Amplitude defense. by Damocles 06/26/2003, 3:04am PDT 
Re: Obligatory Amplitude defense. by Entropy Stew 06/26/2003, 3:19am PDT 
Learning is fun NT by Damocles 06/26/2003, 3:43am PDT 
Re: Obligatory Amplitude defense. by Jhoh Creexul 06/26/2003, 3:55am PDT 
Freezepop is a great band. by FoK 06/25/2003, 9:02am PDT 
Re: Freezepop is a great band. by curst 06/25/2003, 10:36am PDT 
I'm a responding machine by Damocles 06/25/2003, 2:55pm PDT 
YOU WILL BE A MEMBER OF OUR BAND NT by Freezepop 06/25/2003, 2:59pm PDT 
I hate you by Fussbett 06/26/2003, 12:36am PDT 
Fussbett: "I hate you, because my argument sucks" by Damocles 06/26/2003, 3:42am PDT 
Here's you: This argument is gay -- I can't stop typing!!! by Fussbett 06/26/2003, 5:28am PDT 
Re: Here's you: This argument is gay -- I can't stop typing!!! by Damocles 06/27/2003, 3:30am PDT 
Beatmania for PSX/PS2 is not available here by Fussbett 06/26/2003, 12:23am PDT 
Beatmania for PSX/PS2 is not available here. Fortunately, Amplitude is. by Damocles 06/26/2003, 2:51am PDT 
Re: Beatmania for PSX/PS2 is not available here. Fortunately, Amplitude is. by Fussbett 06/26/2003, 6:16am PDT 
Re: Beatmania for PSX/PS2 is not available here. Fortunately, Amplitude is. by Damocles 06/27/2003, 3:43am PDT 
Re: Freezepop is a great band. by Damocles 06/25/2003, 2:41pm PDT 
|
|