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by Damocles 06/27/2003, 3:30am PDT |
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Fussbett wrote:
Damocles wrote:
Have you even played Frequency, or did you just watch somebody? The notes aren't just triggers, off-timed note hits will sound off-timed, as I found out the first time I tried Fear Factory on the hardest mode.
Does Frequency differ from Amplitude greatly in that regard? I have only a rental acquaintance with Freq, but I own and have finished Amp and am CERTAIN that you cannot off-time samples in Amplitude. Wrongly timed notes go "ZZZAP", and slightly off notes get rounded off to sound perfectly in time. If this is different in Freq then I apologize for lumping it in with (the apparently inferior) Amp. Everyone told me they are identical in gameplay.
Well, fuck, that's what the difference was!
I had only rented Amplitude, but noticed that everything sounded just a little too... neat. Sequences seemed to be coming a little too easily and playing too perfectly. Yes, Amp is easier, but I hadn't quite figured out the cause, but it does apparently quantize the sounds. (I still don't think it's simple "triggers" to keep the track going, as it could be easily done both ways, and only Harmonix could answer that question)
Anyway, although Frequency does still have a "clunk" if you completely fuck it up, if you hit the note somewhat off, it plays there. As I discovered when trying to play Fear Factory on hard, and comparing what I played to what the system played.
That does not mean, however, that Amplitude doesn't have samples- it has to, for remixing (especially the competitive remixing game) to work properly. It just doesn't play the samples offtempo in game mode.
Fussbett wrote:
Damocles wrote:
For that matter, it also takes more skill than just proper timing. Keeping up a multiplier, planning out a route, and handling playing one track, switching tracks, then playing something utterly different requires some thought.
YES. YES. YES. Beatmania is purity and simplicity. You versus the notes, and nothing more. Now you're getting it.
So? Purity and simplicity do not mean and never have meant better gameplay any more than they've meant better sex. Unless you like fucking moronic virgins.
To put it in terms of another "zen" genre: Galaga is purer and simpler than ESP-Ra-De. The latter is, however, a better shooter.
Fussbett wrote:
Also, Beatmania constant changes up what you're playing despite your assertion that you play only "one thing", so Freq/Amp doesn't have a lock on the concept of the instant pattern switch, nor the spanning of different parts of a song.
I'm aware that Beatmania switches.. I've played it, and those articles I quoted mentioned it. The problem, however, is that you don't get to choose the elements that you want to play- the game does it for you. This screws up the "purity and simplicity" of the game, because it does not allow one to focus on one pure element of the overall sound. It's like someone in an orchestra switching from Timpany to Oboe to Violin to Conductor near-randomly... it doesn't make sense. The "freaks" games are much simpler and purer and, as one is playing a role in a performance.
The "track laying" in the Harmonix games is also purer, because it's supposed to be a recreation of the experience of recording and mixing a song all by yourself, choosing when elements come in, go out. It's music-gaming-as-sculpture, and as such fills in a needed and necessary niche in the genre. It's also a hell of a lot closer to actual scratch DJing than Beatmania ever was.
Fussbett wrote:
Though I may not understand Erik, I think we can all agree that if this retarded child can manage to play and enjoy Beatmania, so can you.
You argued by assertion, which was lame and sad. I was pointing out that your assertion was not backed by anything but your fervent hope that I'd believe you. I don't, based on my own experiences with both Beatmania and the DS2 and the comments of practically everyone I've ever talked to who likes the genre. I mean, fuck, I wouldn't play Densha De Go on a stock controller if I could help it, why the hell would I or anyone else want to play a game so wedded to a specialized controller and play it on a controller that is manifestly unsuitable for it?
Anyway, as I said in another part of the thread, this argument is gay, simply because Beatmania and Freq/Amp aren't mutually exclusive any more than Beatmania and Samba are mutually exclusive. The Bemani games benefited from the seperation of instruments that is intrinsic to Amplitude, and nobody at Harmonix would deny Bemani's influence. Just accept that Americans can make music games too and move on.
This angle you pushing onto me is really weird. It's not my position that the American devs are inferior, or that these new games have sullied the historical significance of Beatmania, it's that Freq/Amp are for the lower classes, the mainstream, the dabblers. Beatmania is for fortunate, gifted snobs like myself. Because it's a better game. I'm not even asking you to come over to my side. Just know that what I say is true.
This isn't the D&D part of the thread- you can put away the "Wish" spells. Beatmania snobbery is lame, partially because its successor games have rendered it at least somewhat obsolete and partially because playing the "I'm hardcore because I like the older/foreign/simpler games as opposed to the newer/domestic/more involved versions" game is astoundingly stupid if you don't have a specific beef against the game. The reason I keep saying "this argument is lame" is because I'm not arguing that Frequency is better, but that your reasons for saying its inferior suck. It's not superior, or inferior. It's just different, and includes Freezepop.
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Re: Interesting. by FABIO 06/25/2003, 12:12pm PDT 
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who is the scarier person? by FABIO 06/25/2003, 4:18pm PDT 
The guy playing Yu-Gi-Oh. by Damocles 06/25/2003, 4:27pm PDT 
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Re: Interesting. by laudablepuss 06/25/2003, 7:13pm PDT 
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Re: Hmmm by foogla 06/16/2003, 1:43pm PDT 
Re: Hmmm by FABIO 06/16/2003, 2:03pm PDT 
Heh by Senor Barborito 06/16/2003, 2:14pm PDT 
Re: Heh by FABIO 06/16/2003, 2:37pm PDT 
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how is he any worse than Anna? by FABIO 06/16/2003, 4:08pm PDT 
Anna is the only videogame character I have ever jerked off to, for one. by Senor Barborito 06/16/2003, 4:58pm PDT 
I went with the angel broad instead. Or whatever the hell she is. NT by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 4:59pm PDT 
Fall-from -Grace the Tanarri. Read: Aeris mk. 2. Fuck her. I wanted Tifa. NT by Senor Barborito 06/17/2003, 2:58am PDT 
Tanar'ri. MY KLINGON IS BETTER THAN YOURSS! NT by Entropy Stew 06/17/2003, 3:21am PDT 
Thanks, couldn't remember where the apostrophe went AND I DIDN'T LOOK IT UP by Senor Barborito 06/17/2003, 3:35am PDT 
Re: Thanks, couldn't remember where the apostrophe went AND I DIDN'T LOOK IT UP by foogla 06/17/2003, 5:42am PDT 
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Plus they can't see so well with their eyes 3/4 closed all the time. NT by Racist Troll 06/17/2003, 11:15am PDT 
YOU COULD BLINDFOLD THESE PEOPLE WITH FUCKIN DENTAL FLOSS NT by Jhoh Creexul 06/19/2003, 5:09am PDT 
Re: Heh by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 4:58pm PDT 
tell about QFG by Entropy Stew 06/16/2003, 10:46pm PDT 
Re: Heh by Bill Dungsroman 06/17/2003, 12:34am PDT 
Re: Heh by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 11:22am PDT 
Re: Heh by Bill Dungsroman 06/17/2003, 11:43am PDT 
That I did not know. Someday... NT by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:13pm PDT 
why DOES Arcanum suck? by FABIO 06/17/2003, 3:53pm PDT 
Re: why DOES Arcanum suck? by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 5:16pm PDT 
Re: why DOES Arcanum suck? by Bill Dungsroman 06/18/2003, 12:01pm PDT 
That sounds simply appalling. by Lizard_King 06/23/2003, 2:58am PDT 
Re: why DOES Arcanum suck? by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 5:20pm PDT 
Re: why DOES Arcanum suck? by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 5:21pm PDT 
Problems? NT by Entropy Stew 06/17/2003, 5:23pm PDT 
I think my FAGORT THIRD WORLD DIAL UP fucks shit up sometimes b/c it's so slow. NT by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 5:30pm PDT 
BANNED!!! NT by Wacky Willy 06/18/2003, 6:24pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by FABIO 06/16/2003, 2:26pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by laudablepuss 06/16/2003, 3:11pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by FABIO 06/16/2003, 4:04pm PDT 
But if you don't save Vance, who'll suck at WR for the Broncos? NT by laudablepuss 06/16/2003, 5:46pm PDT 
Shooting by Fussbett 06/17/2003, 8:36am PDT 
Re: Shooting by FABIO 06/17/2003, 4:04pm PDT 
You've converted me! by Fussbett 06/17/2003, 5:31pm PDT 
Re: You've converted me! by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 6:22pm PDT 
Re: You've converted me! by Fussbett 06/18/2003, 12:21am PDT 
Re: You've converted me! by E. L. Koba 06/18/2003, 12:48am PDT 
I WAS IN THE WAR! NT by Entropy Stew 06/18/2003, 12:56am PDT 
Black Ops into China, etc etc... by E. L. Koba 06/18/2003, 2:22am PDT 
Fussbett proves that....he likes Vice City? by FABIO 06/18/2003, 3:31am PDT 
YES. YES THEY WERE. by Senor Barborito 06/18/2003, 2:29pm PDT 
Re: HUMVEES and games by McMoo The AntiDrug Cow 06/18/2003, 12:36pm PDT 
Re: HUMVEES and games by McMoo The AntiDrug Cow 06/18/2003, 12:40pm PDT 
Re: HUMVEES and games by FABIO 06/18/2003, 2:07pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by laudablepuss 06/16/2003, 2:57pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by FABIO 06/16/2003, 4:24pm PDT 
NOTHING! And on that note... by Masked Man 06/16/2003, 1:04pm PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 1:17pm PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by FABIO 06/16/2003, 2:12pm PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by foogla 06/16/2003, 3:13pm PDT 
yeah the bikes were one thing I thought was better about VC by FABIO 06/16/2003, 4:07pm PDT 
I love Rez. Unfortunately... by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 4:55pm PDT 
Re: I love Rez. Unfortunately... by Jhoh Creexul 06/17/2003, 11:27am PDT 
Re: I love Rez. Unfortunately... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:14pm PDT 
Re: I love Rez. Unfortunately... by curst 06/17/2003, 3:15pm PDT 
Re: I love Rez. Unfortunately... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 5:19pm PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by No Body 06/16/2003, 4:41pm PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by curst 06/18/2003, 9:58am PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by No Body 06/18/2003, 7:06pm PDT 
Gitaroo Man plug! NT by FABIO 06/19/2003, 1:53am PDT 
Re: NOTHING! And on that note... by McMoo The AntiDrug Cow 06/18/2003, 12:51pm PDT 
TRYING NOT TO DIE FROM THE SARS by K. Thor Jensen 06/19/2003, 12:20pm PDT 
You like DC2? by Lizard_King 06/19/2003, 12:25pm PDT 
appeal of Dark Cloud 2 by FABIO 06/20/2003, 2:33am PDT 
I dunno. I sure as hell couldn't find the appeal. by Lizard_King 06/22/2003, 10:51pm PDT 
yes, but perhaps that's because you're retarded by K. Thor Jensen 06/23/2003, 6:08pm PDT 
Re: yes, but perhaps that's because you're retarded by Lizard_King 06/23/2003, 9:54pm PDT 
it really is worth it by K. Thor Jensen 06/24/2003, 11:08am PDT 
I see. by Lizard_King 06/24/2003, 1:04pm PDT 
sounds like an Animal Crossings RPG NT by FABIO 06/23/2003, 10:18pm PDT 
Re: What are you faggots playing? Besides with yourselves? by junior allen 06/24/2003, 5:57pm PDT 
Amplitude. by Damocles 06/25/2003, 1:32am PDT 
P.O.D. is a horrible blight on music by Fussbett 06/25/2003, 2:04am PDT 
Obligatory Amplitude defense. by Damocles 06/25/2003, 2:39pm PDT 
I can't help from whence Beatmania originated. by Fussbett 06/25/2003, 11:08pm PDT 
Re: I can't help from whence Beatmania originated. by Damocles 06/26/2003, 3:02am PDT 
Re: I can't help from whence Beatmania originated. by Fussbett 06/26/2003, 5:35am PDT 
Golden Showers For All by Damocles 06/27/2003, 3:03am PDT 
Re: Obligatory Amplitude defense. by Jhoh Creexul 06/25/2003, 11:36pm PDT 
Re: Obligatory Amplitude defense. by Damocles 06/26/2003, 3:04am PDT 
Re: Obligatory Amplitude defense. by Entropy Stew 06/26/2003, 3:19am PDT 
Learning is fun NT by Damocles 06/26/2003, 3:43am PDT 
Re: Obligatory Amplitude defense. by Jhoh Creexul 06/26/2003, 3:55am PDT 
Freezepop is a great band. by FoK 06/25/2003, 9:02am PDT 
Re: Freezepop is a great band. by curst 06/25/2003, 10:36am PDT 
I'm a responding machine by Damocles 06/25/2003, 2:55pm PDT 
YOU WILL BE A MEMBER OF OUR BAND NT by Freezepop 06/25/2003, 2:59pm PDT 
I hate you by Fussbett 06/26/2003, 12:36am PDT 
Fussbett: "I hate you, because my argument sucks" by Damocles 06/26/2003, 3:42am PDT 
Here's you: This argument is gay -- I can't stop typing!!! by Fussbett 06/26/2003, 5:28am PDT 
Re: Here's you: This argument is gay -- I can't stop typing!!! by Damocles 06/27/2003, 3:30am PDT 
Beatmania for PSX/PS2 is not available here by Fussbett 06/26/2003, 12:23am PDT 
Beatmania for PSX/PS2 is not available here. Fortunately, Amplitude is. by Damocles 06/26/2003, 2:51am PDT 
Re: Beatmania for PSX/PS2 is not available here. Fortunately, Amplitude is. by Fussbett 06/26/2003, 6:16am PDT 
Re: Beatmania for PSX/PS2 is not available here. Fortunately, Amplitude is. by Damocles 06/27/2003, 3:43am PDT 
Re: Freezepop is a great band. by Damocles 06/25/2003, 2:41pm PDT 
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