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by Senor Barborito 05/21/2003, 9:19pm PDT |
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mark wrote:
Senor Barborito wrote:
Yes, I've seen this. The solution to most AI-complete issues is to adapt a bottom-up approach rather than a top-down one.
What would be an example of someone using bottom-up approach to solve these issues? Are you just saying that if I want a computer to understand "Tombstone Blues" I should start at the phoneme level instead of trying to comprehend the entire song at once and then work to the specifics? I guess I'm not seeing why bottom-up thinking would be so alien to a logician.
mark
An example of a bottom-up approach is genetic programs that result in the most efficient Alife. neural networks, etc. Rodney Brooks over at MIT and he's pet project Cog would be the current flagship for this camp of AI.
Top-down AI is logician's AI - heuristics, symbolic AI, etc. Doug Lenat's Cyc expert system is the penultimate example of this camp of AI.
The trick is to use heuristic maps to set ranges within which highly flexible neural networks can run wild, using trial and error to teach them what works and what does not on a visual level.
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ARE GAMES ART? Avault investigates. by Fussbett 05/20/2003, 5:57pm PDT 
... by Lizard_King 05/20/2003, 6:04pm PDT 
Re: ARE GAMES ART? Avault investigates. by Monty Cantsin 05/21/2003, 1:09am PDT 
Re: ARE GAMES ART? Avault investigates. by Monty Cantsin 05/21/2003, 1:15am PDT 
Shock and Awe by Entropy Stew 05/21/2003, 1:21am PDT 
Re: Shock and Awe by ydrt 05/21/2003, 1:27am PDT 
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You know what fixes repetetive jokes? OLDER REPETETIVE JOKES! NT by Entropy Stew 05/21/2003, 3:34am PDT 
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I desperately hope I crash NT by The Forum SB 05/21/2003, 5:14am PDT 
ATOR? NT by Y-DURT 05/21/2003, 5:16am PDT 
Holy fuck. I never, ever, EVER thought I would see that. by Senor Barborito 05/21/2003, 3:44pm PDT 
Re: Holy fuck. I never, ever, EVER thought I would see that. by Entropy Stew 05/21/2003, 4:50pm PDT 
Pffft by Senor Barborito 05/21/2003, 6:02pm PDT 
Re: Pffft by mark 05/21/2003, 8:44pm PDT 
Ixnay by Senor Barborito 05/21/2003, 9:19pm PDT 
"his" not "he's". Going to bed now. NT by Senor Barborito 05/21/2003, 9:20pm PDT 
You just had to screw it up in the thread where you prove Monty wrong by Entropy Stew 05/22/2003, 2:58am PDT 
Re: You just had to screw it up in the thread where you prove Monty wrong by mark 05/22/2003, 10:10am PDT 
Re: You just had to screw it up in the thread where you prove Monty wrong by Entropy Stew 05/22/2003, 5:52pm PDT 
Re: You just had to screw it up in the thread where you prove Monty wrong by Senor Barborito 05/22/2003, 7:17pm PDT 
Re: You just had to screw it up in the thread where you prove Monty wrong by Monty Cantsin 05/22/2003, 8:05pm PDT 
Um, no by Senor Barborito 05/22/2003, 8:26pm PDT 
If I think you're already dead enough, will it happen? by Senor Barborito 05/22/2003, 1:33pm PDT 
You're horribly, horribly confused on practically every level by Entropy Stew 05/22/2003, 5:31pm PDT 
Your failure to even attempt being informed is making me hemorrhage. by Senor Barborito 05/22/2003, 8:23pm PDT 
Just my artsy fartsy two cents... by Chairman Mao 05/22/2003, 8:55pm PDT 
Re: Just my artsy fartsy two cents... by mark 05/22/2003, 9:07pm PDT 
That is one of the funniest things I have ever seen... NT by Chairman Mao 05/22/2003, 9:12pm PDT 
Well, here's the problem by Senor Barborito 05/22/2003, 9:10pm PDT 
Re: Well, here's the problem by Chairman Mao 05/22/2003, 9:17pm PDT 
Answer by Senor Barborito 05/22/2003, 11:05pm PDT 
Re: ARE GAMES ART? Avault investigates. by Fussbett 05/21/2003, 6:37pm PDT 
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