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Re: Someone is going to work his one joke into the fucking ground. by Zseni 03/14/2003, 5:20pm PST
Is Ray worried only that the status quo will change? Oh for the heady early days of the internet, when one could use the words "chaos mage" unironically and not be laughed off of usenet summarily. If this question sincerely worried anyone, what keeps him from at least researching the fuck out of it, or otherwise influencing its path of development?


Oops, lost it. What is it, oh activist, I should seek to oppose? Man's vying for advantage? His fondness for efficiency? His love of knowledge? I have a bone to pick with gravity, too, but you don't see me out canvassing. What I am talking about is frightening, because it's inevitable.

To oppose it is to oppose human nature, but it means the destruction of what most would call human. A bug in our programming, you could say, except we're NOT JUST COMPUTARS and so it's a fucking .... uhhhh ... bug ... in our .... ahh... moral programming. I mean, our morals.


Spoken like a true materialist. It's pretty obvious what you think is at the core of humanity/human nature/whatever - and to be fair "to vie for advantage" is a goodly portion of man's meted portion of this mortal coil. But hey we had a couple buildings put down over here a while back, maybe this suggests that this planet is getting a little small for 6 billion increasingly godlike advantage-seekers. In short, the old must perish, giving way to the new, and if the brains in boxes will leave me more time to devote - pre-Ming Chinese elite style - to aesthetic pleasures and the general perfection of philosophy, along with the odd bit of betterment vis a vis the status of the non-elite, I am not really loathe to see it coming. My eggs are in a very different basket than yours - not better nor worse, but definitely more sanguine about this apocalyptic brain future you are foreseeing.

And for the record, I think "moral programming" oversimplifies one of the most complicated compartments of the mind - one in which is both nature and nurture, macro- and microcosmic, global and intimate. But that is another argument, for another time.

(See here we get to one of my little crosses to bear where the future is concerned: why are people becoming apathetic and anxious at the same time? It is as though modernization has weakened human will inasmuch as it has mollified the elements and provided for our every comfort. What does that mean?)


Apathy is an immediate thing; anxiety, a forward-looking thing. Our short-term comfort and long-term happiness are no longer connected in any comprehensible way.


Anxiety ruins comfort, apathy diminishes happiness. There must be a name for the thing you wish to oppose, there must be a reason for your anxiety either more or less than the one you propose. I wager you aren't talking about the real thing you're worried about - this is just a portion of a larger complex, maybe you haven't felt it all out yet. Don't bother telling me about it if you have, it's none of my business. The point I want to make is that you are resting on your laurels here, making like it's okay to not really probe at what troubles you - to just sort of fart it out in the water, leaving a cloud of bubbles which disperse and leave an oily unsatisfactory odor in the bath stall, that's sufficient for you.

If you can't supercede your base monkey-ass urges to make lazy/keep vying - that worries me.
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                        Re: Someone is going to work his one joke into the fucking ground. by Zseni 03/14/2003, 5:20pm PST NEW
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