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by Zseni 03/13/2003, 10:43pm PST |
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Mischief Maker wrote:
Zseni wrote:
I guess this works great as a theory, provided you are willing to assume that everyone is as stupid and easily fooled as you are. That's a dangerous assumption, though - not that you'd know. But take it from me on trust, hm?
Any more dangerous than assuming the brain's functions can be broken down into a really complex computer-like system, the only thing preventing total immersion of which is the proper input/output adapter cables? I'm of the opinion that this idea that brains work just like computers is more a consequence of our current cultural landscape than serious scientific proof. Yeah, computers do mental tasks like math really super fast, but so do abbcuses. Just because signals travel through long nerves like wire or optic cable signals doesn't necessarily indicate common working function any more than the fact that birds and insects having wings indicates a common winged anscestor.
But now I'm getting tired and rambling. I'll continue this line of thought tomorrow.
But your post was about people buying into Seinfeld. Have you even seen Seinfeld? It's a little late to put this kind of "well what I meant was whatever will appease you" spin on it, tigershorts.
OTOH insects and birds both having wings does imply, by the current evolutionary line of thought, that they have in common a particular evolutionary pressure that favors the development of wings. Neither birds nor bees are in any position to say "hey I think the other guy's wings work better...think I'll trade up." But humans increasingly ARE in that position. That's what modernization is all about: increasing our control over all the shit that isn't under our control. So if it is to our advantage to make computers that act like brains - or to modify our own brains to act like computers - then we'll probably bust out on that shizzat, to put it in the colloqial. It will be off the heezy.
The question I'd like to ask - which appears to bother nobody around here but me - is "what is man's purpose here on this retarded-ass rock." Because Ray is worried that brain-computers will fuck us up in some way. But what do I care? On the one hand I'm perfectly capable of perpetuating the species, may whatever god you believe in have mercy on us all; on the other I have access to many religious and occultist schema which would amply fulfill my needs for a "higher calling." In what way does a tireless progression towards "greater efficiency" apparently for its own sake equate to anything more or less than another empty ritual/intellectual orgasm? The world will change? Finally, a religion which keeps its promises. But then what?
Is Ray worried only that the status quo will change? Oh for the heady early days of the internet, when one could use the words "chaos mage" unironically and not be laughed off of usenet summarily. If this question sincerely worried anyone, what keeps him from at least researching the fuck out of it, or otherwise influencing its path of development? These empty rhetorical questions, shouted into a void whose only active agent appears to be my angry red ear, are futility itself. Why isn't anyone worried about that? (See here we get to one of my little crosses to bear where the future is concerned: why are people becoming apathetic and anxious at the same time? It is as though modernization has weakened human will inasmuch as it has mollified the elements and provided for our every comfort. What does that mean?) |
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A disquieting development by Ray, of Light 03/12/2003, 10:17pm PST 
I have trouble caring by Senor Barborito 03/12/2003, 10:27pm PST 
Re: A disquieting development by mark 03/13/2003, 12:12am PST 
This is like the ideal engraving for the Caltrops Coat of Arms.-NT- by SBDMT 03/13/2003, 12:18am PST 
Butlerian Jihad! by Jaxx Mannix 03/14/2003, 1:03pm PST 
Re: A disquieting development by Cyrris 03/13/2003, 12:29am PST 
Re: A disquieting development by Chairman Mao 03/13/2003, 1:16am PST 
Re: A disquieting development by Ray, of Light 03/13/2003, 6:30pm PST 
I remove costs using illegal migrant labor by Californication 03/13/2003, 8:42pm PST 
We will have an AI capable of carrying out these tasks before this happens by Entropy Stew 03/13/2003, 2:08am PST 
Re: We will have an AI capable of carrying out these tasks before this happens by Chairman Mao 03/13/2003, 2:13am PST 
Remember, Windex injections kill the brain but leaves the body alive. by laudablepuss 03/13/2003, 5:54pm PST 
Re: We will have an AI capable of carrying out these tasks before this happens by Ray, of Light 03/13/2003, 6:37pm PST 
I hate discussions like these... by I need clarification 03/13/2003, 6:57pm PST 
Re: I hate discussions like these... by Zseni 03/13/2003, 7:03pm PST 
I feel so much less disquieted now by I need clarification 03/13/2003, 7:43pm PST 
and also these, and these, and those over there, and... by Ray, of Light 03/13/2003, 7:15pm PST 
We don't understand it, we will use it by I need clarification 03/13/2003, 7:54pm PST 
No one knows exactly how my meds work, but you can't argue with results :( NT by Jerry Whorebach 07/07/2007, 1:38am PDT 
Re: and also these, and these, and those over there, and... by mark 03/13/2003, 8:18pm PST 
Re: on a similar vein by ydrt 03/13/2003, 3:05pm PST 
Re: A disquieting development by I need clarification 03/13/2003, 6:19pm PST 
Doesn't the Matrix already exist? by Mischief Maker 03/13/2003, 9:48pm PST 
Re: Doesn't the Matrix already exist? by Zseni 03/13/2003, 9:56pm PST 
Somebody's still pissed over her WAREZ privileges getting revoked by Mischief Maker 03/13/2003, 10:19pm PST 
Someone is going to work his one joke into the fucking ground. by Zseni 03/13/2003, 10:43pm PST 
Re: Someone is going to work his one joke into the fucking ground. by Ray, of Light 03/13/2003, 11:54pm PST 
Ok that's it. by Chairman Mao 03/14/2003, 1:54am PST 
Okay, now I'm Barbie: THIS IS THE COOLEST THING EVAR!!!!! by laudablepuss 03/14/2003, 7:09pm PST 
Welcome to Milliways, drive on through to the second wind--ARGH OH MY GOD!! -nt- by ydrt 03/14/2003, 7:36pm PST 
Re: Okay, now I'm Barbie: THIS IS THE COOLEST THING EVAR!!!!! by Chairman Mao 03/14/2003, 7:49pm PST 
Thread hijack: The birth of a Strange Star by laudablepuss 03/14/2003, 8:36pm PST 
Re: Thread hijack: The birth of a Strange Star by Chairman Mao 03/14/2003, 8:54pm PST 
Fixed quotes... by Chairman Mao 03/14/2003, 11:03pm PST 
Re: Someone is going to work his one joke into the fucking ground. by Zseni 03/14/2003, 5:20pm PST 
Re: Someone is going to work his one joke into the fucking ground. by Ray, of Light 03/14/2003, 8:12pm PST 
Re: Someone is going to work his one joke into the fucking ground. by Numbah Six 03/16/2003, 5:19pm PST 
USA! USA! NT NT by Senor Barborito 03/16/2003, 5:34pm PST 
Re: Someone is going to work his one joke into the fucking ground. by junior allen 03/14/2003, 12:57pm PST 
Hee Hee by Mischief Shai-hulud 03/14/2003, 5:55pm PST 
Your fly is open, fag. by Zseni 03/15/2003, 1:41pm PST 
Update by I need clarification 03/16/2003, 2:50am PST 
Dur I done programmeded dat dere computar. NT by I did not insert text 03/16/2003, 2:55am PST 
It's called an -nt- tag, look into it by I need clarification 03/16/2003, 4:16pm PST 
Boo hoo -NT- by Crying Fag 03/16/2003, 4:42pm PST 
BUH?!?! by ATOR The Fighting Eagle 03/18/2003, 11:26pm PST 
There, there... by I need clarification 03/19/2003, 2:56am PST 
Re: A disquieting development by Bill Dungsroman 03/14/2003, 11:49am PST 
Re: A disquieting development by Ray, of Light 03/15/2003, 12:46am PST 
Bill gets fucked (I was right all along) by Ray of Light 12/13/2007, 11:07am PST 
Haha that veronica thread is awesome. NT by Fussbett 12/13/2007, 1:00pm PST 
Were they editing their posts or something? NT by laudablepuss 12/14/2007, 6:48pm PST 
Oh, I see . . . she's just completely insane. NT by laudablepuss 12/14/2007, 6:49pm PST 
ToutSuite's response by Fussbett 03/14/2003, 4:30pm PST 
Or by Or-fag 03/14/2003, 5:13pm PST 
Re: A disquieting development by Diotallevi 03/18/2003, 8:20pm PST 
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