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by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 6:16pm PST |
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Tribes used real multi-texturing back in the day - actually adding each bullethole to the texture IN RAM and then retransmitting the texture across the AGP pipe. Took them months with nVidia to get the game remotely playable on TNTs.
Everquest in the early days had no parametric events, so every time you're in the faggy elf city and there are people riding up the elevator to the treetop forest, the elevator has to retransmit its coordinates with each new world update - prediction was only for players.
It was kind of funny watching the elevator, just by itself, stuttering up and down as each new world-positional coordinate was transmitted. Even funnier was watching it literally HOP several feet each few frames if, say, 30 players got on it at once.
The guys at 989 bragged in interview after interview about how great their netcode was, too - I read with anticipation, and when I saw that behavior I started laughing because I had started reading up on parametric events at age 17. Not as bad a fuckup as Anarchy Online's self-DDoS when they communicated all game traffic in TCP/IP - the ACKs drowning out the server and causing more traffic to be lost resulting in a constant downward spiral. They'd fire up the server again and for 5 minutes it'd be OK until WHAM and again and again . . .
Maybe it's too easy to criticize because I've never written netcode but how can people *WHO ARE GETTING PAID* not know to a) use UDP, b) use Asynchronous Sockets for your client and Overlapped I/O for your server, and c) minimize amount of information sent where possible?
You would think that MMORPG programmers would understand that netcode is MORE IMPORTANT than graphics for their product, and that most of the physics/AI energies of a 'normal' game can be transferred to it - but in many products there is little evidence of this happening and to some extent the opposite. [/rant]
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Carmack's 'rocket' by Senor Barborito 02/05/2003, 5:41am PST 
Re: Carmack's 'rocket' by Mischief Maker 02/05/2003, 11:58am PST
Sheesh by I need clarification 02/09/2003, 12:01am PST
Re: Sheesh by Cyrris 02/09/2003, 1:26am PST
That's telling me by I need clarification 02/09/2003, 2:11am PST
Well by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 6:06am PST
I don't get it! by Fussbett 02/09/2003, 1:11am PST
He's jealous. Duh. -nt- NT by Entropy Stew 02/09/2003, 3:22am PST
I'm not much of a programmer by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 4:58am PST
You're not much of anything by I need clarification 02/09/2003, 5:32am PST
Re: You're not much of anything by Zebco Fuckface 02/09/2003, 5:47am PST
Re: You're not much of anything by I need clarification 02/09/2003, 6:29am PST
That's better than being unable to read by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 5:49am PST
Also question for the moron by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 5:56am PST
Oh, stop with the pretending you know math, already. by I need clarification 02/09/2003, 6:32am PST
"You can't read." Brilliant. by I need clarification 02/09/2003, 6:28am PST
Better than anything you've posted to the site, at least by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 12:43pm PST
Holy crap, it just occurred to me. by I need clarification 02/09/2003, 2:31pm PST
PS: by I need clarification 02/09/2003, 2:49pm PST
Hahahaha by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 3:18pm PST
Thank you for proving my point. by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 3:17pm PST
Tsk tsk, and you were almost making sense up until that point by Entropy Stew 02/09/2003, 4:55pm PST
You're both right and wrong. by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 5:45pm PST
Carmack: History's rocketeer or programmer? by Fussbett 02/09/2003, 6:08pm PST
Presumably by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 6:18pm PST
Also some anecdotal failures on these topics by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 6:16pm PST
Re: Also some anecdotal failures on these topics by Zebco Fuckface 02/09/2003, 7:10pm PST
Re: Also some anecdotal failures on these topics by Zebco Fuckface 02/09/2003, 7:13pm PST
Hell by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 8:51pm PST
Also by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 8:58pm PST
Hold up by mark 02/09/2003, 9:19pm PST
Re: Hell by Zebco Fuckface 02/09/2003, 11:48pm PST
Re: Hell by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 12:07am PST
Re: Hell by Zebco Fuckface 02/11/2003, 7:08am PST
Lot of network talk over the past few days .. by bastage 02/09/2003, 7:48pm PST
Re: Lot of network talk over the past few days .. by Lufteufel 02/09/2003, 10:07pm PST
Quake 1: 250-350ms ping over modem. Those were the days n/t NT by <-Nordic-> 02/11/2003, 9:48pm PST
Re: Also some anecdotal failures on these topics by mark 02/09/2003, 9:43pm PST
Re: Also some anecdotal failures on these topics by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 9:59pm PST
oops, should have read this first re: carmack [nt] NT by Lufteufel 02/09/2003, 10:08pm PST
Re: Also some anecdotal failures on these topics by Mysterio 11/23/2013, 6:46am PST
Re: Also some anecdotal failures on these topics by col.schickn 11/23/2013, 8:38am PST
This post should be stickied forever by This is what futurists actually bel 08/07/2017, 10:55am PDT
Long bets, and the futurists that love them NT by Voxels vs V-2s 08/07/2017, 3:00pm PDT
Rocket, stealing porn goggle tech, Futurism isn't an 'exact' science. NT by The Happiness Engine 08/08/2017, 6:26pm PDT
Yeah, exactly. by I need clarification 02/09/2003, 8:57pm PST
A quick literature search by mark 02/09/2003, 1:26pm PST
Thank you - this was exactly my point by Senor Barborito 02/09/2003, 1:49pm PST
Re: That's better than being unable to read by Fat Autistic Fuck 06/11/2022, 12:27pm PDT
Re: I'm not much of a programmer by Zebco Fuckface 02/09/2003, 5:46am PST
Yeah, me too!! by I need clarification 02/09/2003, 6:19am PST
Re: I'm not much of a programmer by fanclub 02/10/2003, 4:36pm PST
You're right by Senor Barborito 02/10/2003, 4:45pm PST
But I thought you wanted to weed out the imperfect... -nt- NT by Entropy Stew 02/11/2003, 1:28am PST
This whole thing. Bump. NT by Mysterio 11/22/2013, 4:57pm PST
I was going to snicker at the prediction of Doom 3 revolutionizing the industry by Lemoney Snick 11/22/2013, 7:55pm PST
Look, the technology was ready, but he was afraid he'd open a portal to hell by blackwater 11/22/2013, 10:20pm PST
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