Senor Barborito wrote:

Senor Barborito wrote:

99% of what Carmack does is simply optimize the obvious path in current state-of-the-art.

snipped listed of technologies Senor Barborito was aware of Carmack's involvement in

You can claim these technologies would have come along with or without him

That is exactly what I fucking said. This is the part where you mumble a bit, bow your head with big drippy tears running down your face and say, "I can't read."

Seriously - how stupid are you? His clock-independence work for Keen was *truly* revolutionary for its time. Everything else from BSP trees on out has been drawn from existing papers on the subject or previously existed in some crude form beforehand that he simply did far better. There really is no argument to a string of facts he has himself stated. As for the reverse, I specifically stated I needed to read more on Doom 3's tech before I could say anything - my understanding though (based on what he said) is that this idea emerged from a few different places simultaneously.

--SB