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New units by fabio 03/13/2013, 11:56am PDT
So picked this up hoping the new units would do for the original SC what Brood War did: turn it away from mindless unit massing and back to trump and counter trumping. So far I'm not really seeing it. Either the new units don't seem to fill a niche that needed filling, are redundant of an existing unit, or they're too out of place on the tech tree to do what they were meant to do.


Terran

Medivac after burner- Makes medivacs go super fast for 8 seconds. WHY? What alternate dimension were medivac drops underpowered and rarely used?

Reapers- A bit more ridiculous

Hellbat- A ground mech unit with a short range AoE attack. Can be researched to transform into Hellion and back. Basically a weaker, cheaper Thor available at the same point in the tech tree. What was the point?

Widow mine- A callback to the spider mine from SC1. The difference is it's its own unit and isn't used up, just releases mines while burrowed with a long reload. Neat, but I'm not sure why Terran needed it. They already had 2 cloaking combat units.


Zerg

Swarm Host- Callback to the Lurker from SC1, except without the AoE to make it slaughter infantry and arriving much later in the tech tree to try and fulfill that roll anyway. Is supposed to be a mid game siege option for the zerg, but you need to invest in another expensive, long time to research upgrade for it to be any good at that role at which point you might as well just go for brood lords.

Viper- This was the unit I was looking forward to the most. A flying unit with a long range ability to pull enemy units to it. Looked like an answer to countering siege tank and colossus rape. The problem is you don't get it until you upgrade to a hive, some time after Protoss and Terran can commence said rape.


Protoss

Oracle- Air unit that uses energy for a ground attack that decimates workers. This is the only new unit I've seen a lot of use in online games.

Mothership core- Can give your nexus a decent attack, comes too late to help against early rushes. Biggest use is an earlier detection unit than observers without having to make the investment in a robotics facility.

Tempest- A long range aerial siege unit available the same time as carriers? So...a carrier? I seem to recall they were going to replace carriers entirely with this but fan outcry made them keep them.


Disappointing show so far. I haven't seen any real change to online strategies other than oracle worker harassment and more reaper rushing.
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Installation review by fabio 03/12/2013, 8:32pm PDT NEW
    New units by fabio 03/13/2013, 11:56am PDT NEW
        I can tell from your post, you are terrible at the game. I'm LAUGHING NT by at the "superior intellect". 03/13/2013, 3:00pm PDT NEW
        Here are a few specific things you are so wrong about that I wonder by if you've actually played the game 03/13/2013, 3:08pm PDT NEW
            I'm sure he is PSHing into his soup by Entropy Stew 03/13/2013, 3:54pm PDT NEW
                Holy shit you are never going to let a lost LoL game go are you NT by fabio 03/13/2013, 7:51pm PDT NEW
                    I can't even say "LoL" on this forum without you foaming your shorts by Entropy Stew 03/13/2013, 8:37pm PDT NEW
                        You're kidding by fabio 03/14/2013, 8:36am PDT NEW
                            Seriously though you should ease down on the cunting by fabio 03/14/2013, 8:42am PDT NEW
                                Have you played team games in your life before MOBA though? NT by Worm 03/14/2013, 9:09am PDT NEW
                                    None with the sheer toxicity of MOBA players by fabio 03/14/2013, 1:06pm PDT NEW
        More shit you are wrong about because you don't understand anything by that's happening on the screen 03/13/2013, 5:03pm PDT NEW
            Would you like me to play Misty for you? by fabio 03/13/2013, 7:57pm PDT NEW
                I don't understand. by Does that mean I won? 03/13/2013, 8:08pm PDT NEW
                    Try the google hotkey NT by fabio 03/13/2013, 8:12pm PDT NEW
                        Yeah but nobody understands what your point was. NT by Benjamin A. Parrish 03/13/2013, 9:02pm PDT NEW
                            You probably wont get it till you reach platinum league by fabio 03/13/2013, 9:27pm PDT NEW
                                Sorry, Fahbs, I don't RTS NT by Entropy Stew 03/13/2013, 9:36pm PDT NEW
                                Your DOTA 2 history was public when you were talking about Slark by Worm 03/13/2013, 9:46pm PDT NEW
                                    I like how everyone is avoiding the day one patch problem fabio brought up. by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/13/2013, 10:19pm PDT NEW
                                        You're an idiot, but I understand you've got a website to run. by Benjamin A. Parrish 03/13/2013, 11:01pm PDT NEW
                                    Man it's tough to impress MOBA people by fabio 03/14/2013, 2:01am PDT NEW
                                You would not reach Platinum if you played for 1000 years. by Benjamin A. Parrish 03/13/2013, 11:03pm PDT NEW
                                    The more valuable the metal, the denser to getting the joke by fabio 03/14/2013, 2:07am PDT NEW
                The concept of identity is as fascinating to Mysterios as it is terrifying. NT by Mischief Maker 03/13/2013, 8:33pm PDT NEW
                    Weren't you fully half the people posting on OMM and Caltrops at some points? NT by Entropy Stew 03/13/2013, 8:41pm PDT NEW
                        Mwahahahaha! NT by Mischief Maker 03/13/2013, 9:00pm PDT NEW
    aaaaand now a 50mb patch you cant download because the servers are frozen NT by fabio 03/13/2013, 1:34pm PDT NEW
    The campaign is better than Wings of Liberty by fabio 03/14/2013, 7:56am PDT NEW
        I got six missions to go before I can read your post by pinback 03/14/2013, 3:44pm PDT NEW
        Okay now I can respond to this. by pinback 03/15/2013, 2:07pm PDT NEW
            Nice of them to render the whole choices thing in Wings of Liberty a joke by WITTGENSTEIN 03/15/2013, 6:36pm PDT NEW
                2 stars, buddy? 2 stars for a plot hole? NT by KERRIGAN'S HAIR IS DIFFURNT 03/15/2013, 6:51pm PDT NEW
                    I'm sorry could you repeat that pinback? I couldn't hear over the sound of you NT by sucking about 20 blizzard dicks 03/15/2013, 7:10pm PDT NEW
                        Hey ICJ are you going to post my review on Caltrops? NT by Cuz if so the price just went up. 03/15/2013, 8:33pm PDT NEW
                            Let's review. by WITTGENSTEIN 03/15/2013, 9:58pm PDT NEW
                                Re: Let's review. by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/15/2013, 10:35pm PDT NEW
                                    Que estas es bullshit? Did Jonesy just tell me to stop posting? by WITTGENSTEIN 03/15/2013, 11:46pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: Que estas es bullshit? Did Jonesy just tell me to stop posting? by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/16/2013, 10:08am PDT NEW
                                            *But not Virtua Tennis or Daytona USA. (It might be better than Virtua Striker.) NT by Jerry Whorebach 03/17/2013, 12:20am PDT NEW
                    The plot is terrible enough all around to subtract stars by fabio 03/15/2013, 8:19pm PDT NEW
                        You really should have made a long bet on that by WITTGENSTEIN 03/15/2013, 8:21pm PDT NEW
                            They hinted at it in WoL by fabio 03/15/2013, 8:33pm PDT NEW
                                I guess they REALLY LOVE Ender's Game there at Blizzard by WITTGENSTEIN 03/15/2013, 10:29pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: I guess they REALLY LOVE Ender's Game there at Blizzard by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/15/2013, 10:55pm PDT NEW
                                        You have to work to be good at a game. Story you sit back and let it wash over y NT by Mischief Maker 03/15/2013, 11:07pm PDT NEW
                                    Finished the campaign by fabio 03/17/2013, 2:40pm PDT NEW
                                        This is that Chris Metzen guy's fault, hack with one plot, sounds like NT by Roop 05/06/2013, 12:14am PDT NEW
                HotS changes depending on the choices you made in WoL. NT by idiot 03/15/2013, 10:59pm PDT NEW
                    How can it tell? by WITTGENSTEIN 03/15/2013, 11:32pm PDT NEW
                        I dunno, maybe the last one you picked. NT by wittgenstein is killing e-sports 03/16/2013, 5:21am PDT NEW
        HotS: my take on it by blackwater 05/05/2013, 9:58pm PDT NEW
            Double-edged sword. by pinback 05/06/2013, 5:40am PDT NEW
 
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