Re: You've just been starved for Catwomanby Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 09/03/2012, 8:19am PDT
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
I think the Eddie Murphy bit is a warning in the shape of a metaphor towards black men against marrying white women. I mean, he could have picked any food there.
Certainly a metaphor Raffaello Follieri would have benefitted from knowing.
The reason why Anne Hathaway was the best Catwoman was because she wasn't trying to be a cat. I think it's lame that nobody called her "Catwoman," sure. It's like those zombie movies that go out of their way to awkwardly not say the word "zombie." The directory thinks he is better than the source material and I hate that. This movie is fine taking the goodwill of 80 years of Catwoman stories but OH GOD we couldn't possibly say her name. That being said, I can't take either of the other two actresses you posted seriously because they are saying "meow" and drinking milk. So maybe I can't take their directors, it's not like either of the gals wrote that shit. (And Tim Burton is a terrible director, so let's go with that theory.)
2 things:
1. I've always considered the Burton Batman to take place in the same continuity as his other early films. If Insane Batman went for an cross-country drive, he'd pass Pee Wee on his bike, Beetlejuice's loft, and Edward Scissorhands' castle. "Serious" and "Realistic" are two different terms.
2. I've always been a secondhand consumer of superheroes, so maybe my view is warped, but to me, the best way to take a dude who dresses in a fetishistic costume spending his evening punching criminals seriously is to set him in an outsized and over-the-top world that fits his personality. In fact, I'd say Tim Burton was laughing at the very idea of trying to shoehorn such characters into a realistic setting at the end of Pee Wee's Big Adventure where we're re-watching the movie at the drive through after being run through the studio system, with James Brolin playing Pee Wee in the "realistic" version:
I don't know how anyone can quantify sexy, and it is further complicated by the fact that I think that Anne Hathaway is the most beautiful woman in the world, except for my girlfriend, that female fortune teller machine and my own mother. A lot of people don't know that's a valid ranking process: ignore those people. However, the best thing I've seen in any Batman movie was when Hathaway went from maid to super villain thief in about two seconds. I know she wasn't really a maid, but if I distort that and blur that line you will realize there is no reasoning with me.
We may not disagree at all, we may just be using different definitions of "sexy." Lord knows Anne Hathaway is the prettiest actress in the Nolan trilogy, (save for evil ethnic woman, who was both prettier and sexier), and I'd agree that she's prettier than Michelle Pfeiffer, (but not Eartha Kitt). I'm defining sexy in terms of her performance and her chemistry with Batman and in both of those she's a flop.
Furthermore, even if she's a "realistic" Catwoman who doesn't say "meow" or drink milk, she still clearly written as an over-the-top sexy performance. If Michelle Pfeiffer had a scene where she was menacing a man by holding a sharpened stiletto heel to his neck from a standing position, defenders would be describing that scene as "steamy," not "badass." I could totally buy Eartha Kitt as a "realistic" Catwoman banking on her ability to pluck a VIP out of a crowd and not just seduce him for one night, but keep him hanging for weeks as her sex-slave/hostage. Hathaway's performance didn't sell either of these scenes.
She was an attractively-shaped plank of plywood opposite the gravelly-voiced plank of plywood in the lead role. I'd even go so far as to say Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen had more on-screen chemistry than Hathaway and Bale.