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On the killing of abortion doctors by Xytofor Zitowich 03/01/2012, 4:04am PST
Mysterio (not the retarded one) wrote:

Ironically, their true intent is exposed whenever they grudgingly condemn someone who shoots up a women's health clinic. By their logic, each of those doctors is Josef Mengele himself manning concentration camps for babies. Anyone who takes them out should be a hero, law or no law. The reason they get upset at such shootings isn't out of any respect for the doctors' lives, but for public seeing them called on their bluff.

Most people don't examine the logic of their beliefs or the conclusions that you can draw from them, probably because (1) they wouldn't like the result, (2) they want what they want even if it's impossible, illogical or absurd, and (3) they're hypocrites.

I once came to the conclusion that if you believe that abortion is the 'murdering of babies', then by definition blowing up abortion clinics or killing doctors who perform abortions is perfectly moral and is in the same class of act as persons who would have killed guards at Burkenau, Auschwitz, or Dachau, or blowing up those camps in order to free the Jews who were being worked to death or to stop the operation of the gas chambers.

Since, if you follow that logic, the laws here permit the murder of innocents, then such laws or court rulings themselves are morally wrong and it is legitimate to ignore them, and if necessary, to use violence to stop these acts. This would be correct and follows the precedents set down by the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials,. It is interesting to note that the Nazis put on trial tried to point out - correctly - that all of the Allied powers had, at one time or another, had permitted or engaged in, at one time or another, every single war crime that they were accused of. They were not, however, allowed to argue that; the fact that their conduct was similar to the conduct of the winning side wasn't allowed as a defense. This would have set a bad precedent, that the winning side isn't supposed to also engage in acts representing crimes of humanity then turn around and accuse the losers of doing the same thing and it being criminal, i.e. if you win, you're allowed to be a hypocrite.

Now, in the same respects as it would have been a crime in Nazi Germany to kill concentration camp guards and blow up concentration camps, it is illegal to kill abortion doctors and blow up abortion clinics, if the laws permit them to continue to kill innocent human beings, then such laws are just as much permitting the commission of crimes against humanity. Of course it means those who did those things would be looked at as criminals by those governments in both cases.

I presume most of these 'fetuses are babies' arguers would be horrified to realize the logic of the conclusions of their beliefs, they don't realize that if you declare a fetus a human being, then that leads to the line of reasoning that blowing up abortuaries and killing abortion providers is perfectly reasonable given the circumstances.
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I find this response to the abortion debate to be hilarious & quite appropriate by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 02/23/2012, 10:47am PST NEW
    I find this response to the abortion debate to be hilarious & quite appropriate by Mysterio 02/23/2012, 5:02pm PST NEW
        Re: I find this response to the abortion debate to be hilarious & quite appropri by laudablepuss 02/23/2012, 8:08pm PST NEW
        If not vasectomy, what's the closest male analogue to abortion? Masturbation? by Mischief Maker 02/24/2012, 12:43am PST NEW
            Re: If not vasectomy, what's the closest male analogue to abortion? Masturbatio by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 8:53am PST NEW
            There is no medical condition or procedure analogous to abortion by Mysterio (not the retarded one) 02/24/2012, 9:45am PST NEW
                Stretched Metaphors: The Thread NT by Entropy Stew 02/24/2012, 2:04pm PST NEW
                On the killing of abortion doctors by Xytofor Zitowich 03/01/2012, 4:04am PST NEW
        The actual counterpart is spontaneous miscarriages. by Last 02/24/2012, 8:33am PST NEW
            Re: The actual counterpart is spontaneous miscarriages. by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 9:02am PST NEW
                Yeah, stupid is the word that came to mind. by Last 02/24/2012, 9:14am PST NEW
                    Re: Yeah, stupid is the word that came to mind. by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 11:17am PST NEW
                        Oh abortion is gross and icky? You're right we should outlaw it by Worm 02/24/2012, 11:46am PST NEW
                        I'M OUTRAGED ABOUT HUMDRUM MEDICAL PROCEDURES. NT by you in your own words literally 02/24/2012, 12:19pm PST NEW
                            I CAN'T TELL WHEN SOME WORDS ARE IN EARNEST AND OTHERS ARE SARCASTIC. by You, apparently 02/24/2012, 12:37pm PST NEW
                                One involves medical tools, the other involves Schlitz. NT by Mischief Maker 02/24/2012, 1:09pm PST NEW
                                    One is done by a white Deacon's wife, the other by Freddy Krueger in a lab coat. by Last 02/24/2012, 1:14pm PST NEW
                                        Re: One is done by a white Deacon's wife, the other by Freddy Krueger in a lab c by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 1:30pm PST NEW
                                            Yeah I'm with you on that. NT by Last 02/24/2012, 1:47pm PST NEW
                                    Parents are prosecuted for FAS babies all the time by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 1:22pm PST NEW
            Re: The actual counterpart is spontaneous miscarriages. by Arbit 02/24/2012, 9:06am PST NEW
                Re: The actual counterpart is spontaneous miscarriages. by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 11:21am PST NEW
                    I don't know, what do you think? by Arbit 02/24/2012, 1:14pm PST NEW
                        Re: I don't know, what do you think? by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 1:46pm PST NEW
                            Re: I don't know, what do you think? by Arbit 02/24/2012, 4:18pm PST NEW
                                Re: I don't know, what do you think? by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 9:49pm PST NEW
                            Louder ≠ Bigger NT by Mischief Maker 02/24/2012, 4:35pm PST NEW
                                (Does not equal) NT by Mischief Maker 02/24/2012, 4:36pm PST NEW
                    Who is this? by Mysterio (not the retarded one) 02/24/2012, 3:16pm PST NEW
                        Re: Who is this? by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 4:33pm PST NEW
                        Also, if all you've got is insults, at least try to make them creative and/or fu by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 4:35pm PST NEW
                            Who taught individuality to a Mysterio then released it back to the Hive? NT by I Maker 02/24/2012, 4:37pm PST NEW
                            "All I did was label abortion doctors as cannibal butchers! No need to be RUDE!" by Mysterio (not the retarded one) 02/24/2012, 5:58pm PST NEW
                                I bet gastric bypass looks and sounds disgusting, so we should outlaw that too! by Worm 02/24/2012, 7:19pm PST NEW
                                    You're still in a tizzy over your Civil War figurines being knocked over by fabio 02/24/2012, 8:44pm PST NEW
                                        Those comparisons to the Khmer Rouge hit us all pretty hard. We'll never recover NT by Worm 02/24/2012, 10:28pm PST NEW
                                I just gave you inspiration for a new Star Trek fanfic, didn't I by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 9:57pm PST NEW
            Re: The actual counterpart is spontaneous miscarriages. by Xytofor Zitowich 03/01/2012, 4:08am PST NEW
            Punishing Fornication (Martin v. Ziherl) by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 03/01/2012, 4:25am PST NEW
    I find it rather amusing by Oom Shnibble 03/01/2012, 7:26am PST NEW
        Shnibble, you didn't speak about film as a contraceptive by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 03/01/2012, 7:40am PST NEW
            Re: Shnibble, you didn't speak about film as a contraceptive by Oom Shnibble 03/01/2012, 7:54am PST NEW
                Re: Shnibble, you didn't speak about film as a contraceptive by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 03/04/2012, 7:01am PST NEW
 
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