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by Mysterio (not the retarded one) 02/24/2012, 9:45am PST |
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Hence why the correct answer to the debate (fuck you for legislating my body) isn't instantly crystal clear to everyone.
It's easy to say what abortion isn't: murdering a newborn in its crib. At that point it is no longer physically connected to the mother and can easily be put into the care of others if she is still unable or unwilling to care for it.
The closest you can get to making a medical comparison would be organ/blood donation. The fact that someone will die if you refuse to lend your body as life support does not make you a murderer for refusing to do so. Many claim it is because you must go in and remove a developing fetus which is exactly like Jack the Ripper! Except it isn't, and the closest medical procedure to that would be tearing out the needle from you arm in the middle of a blood transfusion, leading to the death of a recipient who would have otherwise lived had you done nothing. Still not murder. Having to dig into convoluted scenarios like that for the closest analogy to abortion is the ammunition anti-choicers use to discredit others.
As far as their motivation, it isn't so much a hatred of non-reproductive sex (though they certainly possess it) as it is a hatred of living for the self. Nothing infuriates reactionaries like behaviors and institutions that weaken a system of rigid patriarchal control and sources of unquestioning followers. It's why they hate women's rights. It's why they homeschool. It's why they loathe higher education so much as their spawn go off and get laid at college. Any man/woman relationship not raising babies is not only a wasted opportunity to expand their fiefdom, but a perceived danger to their authority as fulfilling relationships tend to shift a man and woman's loyalty to each other rather than god and country. Orwell outlined this with 1984's Anti-Sex League. To any authoritarian regime, the ideal is couples who can't stand each other but are forced to stay together through marriage as they continue to pump out babies.
Ironically, their true intent is exposed whenever they grudgingly condemn someone who shoots up a women's health clinic. By their logic, each of those doctors is Josef Mengele himself manning concentration camps for babies. Anyone who takes them out should be a hero, law or no law. The reason they get upset at such shootings isn't out of any respect for the doctors' lives, but for public seeing them called on their bluff. |
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I find this response to the abortion debate to be hilarious & quite appropriate by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 02/23/2012, 10:47am PST 
I find this response to the abortion debate to be hilarious & quite appropriate by Mysterio 02/23/2012, 5:02pm PST 
Re: I find this response to the abortion debate to be hilarious & quite appropri by laudablepuss 02/23/2012, 8:08pm PST 
If not vasectomy, what's the closest male analogue to abortion? Masturbation? by Mischief Maker 02/24/2012, 12:43am PST 
Re: If not vasectomy, what's the closest male analogue to abortion? Masturbatio by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 8:53am PST 
There is no medical condition or procedure analogous to abortion by Mysterio (not the retarded one) 02/24/2012, 9:45am PST 
Stretched Metaphors: The Thread NT by Entropy Stew 02/24/2012, 2:04pm PST 
On the killing of abortion doctors by Xytofor Zitowich 03/01/2012, 4:04am PST 
The actual counterpart is spontaneous miscarriages. by Last 02/24/2012, 8:33am PST 
Re: The actual counterpart is spontaneous miscarriages. by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 9:02am PST 
Yeah, stupid is the word that came to mind. by Last 02/24/2012, 9:14am PST 
Re: Yeah, stupid is the word that came to mind. by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 11:17am PST 
Oh abortion is gross and icky? You're right we should outlaw it by Worm 02/24/2012, 11:46am PST 
I'M OUTRAGED ABOUT HUMDRUM MEDICAL PROCEDURES. NT by you in your own words literally 02/24/2012, 12:19pm PST 
I CAN'T TELL WHEN SOME WORDS ARE IN EARNEST AND OTHERS ARE SARCASTIC. by You, apparently 02/24/2012, 12:37pm PST 
One involves medical tools, the other involves Schlitz. NT by Mischief Maker 02/24/2012, 1:09pm PST 
One is done by a white Deacon's wife, the other by Freddy Krueger in a lab coat. by Last 02/24/2012, 1:14pm PST 
Re: One is done by a white Deacon's wife, the other by Freddy Krueger in a lab c by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 1:30pm PST 
Yeah I'm with you on that. NT by Last 02/24/2012, 1:47pm PST 
Parents are prosecuted for FAS babies all the time by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 1:22pm PST 
Re: The actual counterpart is spontaneous miscarriages. by Arbit 02/24/2012, 9:06am PST 
Re: The actual counterpart is spontaneous miscarriages. by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 11:21am PST 
I don't know, what do you think? by Arbit 02/24/2012, 1:14pm PST 
Re: I don't know, what do you think? by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 1:46pm PST 
Re: I don't know, what do you think? by Arbit 02/24/2012, 4:18pm PST 
Re: I don't know, what do you think? by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 9:49pm PST 
Louder ≠ Bigger NT by Mischief Maker 02/24/2012, 4:35pm PST 
(Does not equal) NT by Mischief Maker 02/24/2012, 4:36pm PST 
Who is this? by Mysterio (not the retarded one) 02/24/2012, 3:16pm PST 
Re: Who is this? by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 4:33pm PST 
Also, if all you've got is insults, at least try to make them creative and/or fu by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 4:35pm PST 
Who taught individuality to a Mysterio then released it back to the Hive? NT by I Maker 02/24/2012, 4:37pm PST 
"All I did was label abortion doctors as cannibal butchers! No need to be RUDE!" by Mysterio (not the retarded one) 02/24/2012, 5:58pm PST 
I bet gastric bypass looks and sounds disgusting, so we should outlaw that too! by Worm 02/24/2012, 7:19pm PST 
You're still in a tizzy over your Civil War figurines being knocked over by fabio 02/24/2012, 8:44pm PST 
Those comparisons to the Khmer Rouge hit us all pretty hard. We'll never recover NT by Worm 02/24/2012, 10:28pm PST 
I just gave you inspiration for a new Star Trek fanfic, didn't I by Mysterio 02/24/2012, 9:57pm PST 
Re: The actual counterpart is spontaneous miscarriages. by Xytofor Zitowich 03/01/2012, 4:08am PST 
Punishing Fornication (Martin v. Ziherl) by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 03/01/2012, 4:25am PST 
I find it rather amusing by Oom Shnibble 03/01/2012, 7:26am PST 
Shnibble, you didn't speak about film as a contraceptive by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 03/01/2012, 7:40am PST 
Re: Shnibble, you didn't speak about film as a contraceptive by Oom Shnibble 03/01/2012, 7:54am PST 
Re: Shnibble, you didn't speak about film as a contraceptive by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 03/04/2012, 7:01am PST 
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