Forum Overview :: Peter Molyneux's The Movies :: On the killing of abortion doctors

[quote name="Xytofor Zitowich"][quote name="Mysterio (not the retarded one)"]Ironically, their true intent is exposed whenever they grudgingly condemn someone who shoots up a women's health clinic. By their logic, each of those doctors is Josef Mengele himself manning concentration camps for babies. Anyone who takes them out should be a <b>hero</b>, law or no law. The reason they get upset at such shootings isn't out of any respect for the doctors' lives, but for public seeing them called on their bluff.[/quote] Most people don't examine the logic of their beliefs or the conclusions that you can draw from them, probably because (1) they wouldn't like the result, (2) they want what they want even if it's impossible, illogical or absurd, and (3) they're hypocrites. I once came to the conclusion that if you believe that abortion is the 'murdering of babies', then by definition blowing up abortion clinics or killing doctors who perform abortions is perfectly moral and is in the same class of act as persons who would have killed guards at Burkenau, Auschwitz, or Dachau, or blowing up those camps in order to free the Jews who were being worked to death or to stop the operation of the gas chambers. Since, if you follow that logic, the laws here permit the murder of innocents, then such laws or court rulings themselves are morally wrong and it is legitimate to ignore them, and if necessary, to use violence to stop these acts. This would be correct and follows the precedents set down by the <i>Nuremberg War Crimes Trials,</i>. It is interesting to note that the Nazis put on trial tried to point out - correctly - that all of the Allied powers had, at one time or another, had permitted or engaged in, at one time or another, <i>every single war crime that they were accused of</i>. They were not, however, allowed to argue that; the fact that their conduct was similar to the conduct of the winning side wasn't allowed as a defense. This would have set a bad precedent, that the winning side isn't supposed to also engage in acts representing crimes of humanity then turn around and accuse the losers of doing the same thing and it being criminal, i.e. if you win, you're allowed to be a hypocrite. Now, in the same respects as it would have been a crime in Nazi Germany to kill concentration camp guards and blow up concentration camps, it is illegal to kill abortion doctors and blow up abortion clinics, if the laws permit them to continue to kill innocent human beings, then such laws are just as much permitting the commission of crimes against humanity. Of course it means those who did those things would be looked at as criminals by those governments in both cases. I presume most of these 'fetuses are babies' arguers would be horrified to realize the logic of the conclusions of their beliefs, they don't realize that if you declare a fetus a human being, then that leads to the line of reasoning that blowing up abortuaries and killing abortion providers is perfectly reasonable given the circumstances. [/quote]