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Wow, add some pictures and that could be a review by Voyons Donc 03/11/2005, 1:38pm PST
Pictures of hot young studs with cocks in mouth.

Casual observer wrote:

Surely, the bink demographic was so important for me that I am now a devastated man, picked appart my the metaphorical Sea Snakes of Laoconte.

However, I'm putting my foot down, that perception that a game is better because its newer -has- to die, and the case of MW2 vs MW4 is a clear example of this, and I'll make the Methuselanic attempt to illuminate you monkeys.

Of course, you're just making things up. Creexul was actually saying that MW4 is more fun to play than creaky old MW2. You know, fun? Enjoyment?
James Wagner Au wrote:

First off, the arguments objectively summarized:

MW4 is better because, since it's newer, it's a more refined experience, matured with the passing of the earlier iterations on inferior tecnology.

On the other hand...

MW2 is better because the game mechanics are more congruent

...and that was the point at which I stopped seriously reading and began scanning down the page, looking for more of your fruity turns of phrase. I was hoping that you would accuse Creexul of being oblivious to his apostasy.
Casual Observer's thesaurus wrote:

and the game itself, even my today's standards, is a more organic experience, and thus a better game.

Now, on to the all-exciting and infinetly stimulating sustentation phase!

Jesus.
Stuffy Old History Professor wrote:

MW4 is indeed a 'prettier' game, even despite the renewal some seven years ago when they came out with the graphically nasty as anal sex after a year-old enchilada dinner Titanium version of MechWarrior 2. Yeah, it was 3d, it was textured, it was ugly. However, subjacent to that aesthetically sickening exterior, the core was still an organic game that had r0xz3rd the gaming world by the foundations. So much so that Interstate 72, Heavy Gear, Earthsiege (conceptually, and from which Starsiege and later Tribes was spawned), with other less memorable games riding in the wake. Already this can be taken as contrast between both games, MW4 did -not- spawn nor did it renew the genre, as a matter of fact it -killed- it. There won't be an MW5, this has been an official announcement made by Microsoft on the matter.

"You're not allowed to prefer other games to MW2, because... it's a classic! Also, it sold more units than MW4 so it is therefore better."

Skipping ahead a bit...
Tycho from Penny Arcade wrote:

Similarly, when you look at other game mechanics, you find that this game was just half-implemented, and made entirely forgiving. Ammo doesn't blow up when hit, it just goes away, and Heat, the central balancing piece of the entire gamem doesn't really kill you. Behold the wonders of physics in the MW4 universe! No object can hold more than 10,000 Kelvin in heat, even when heated up even further! In MW2, there was a cut-off and a timer. If you were running hotter than a certain temperature for a short period of time, or if you went past the red line, boom. In MW4, you reached the aforementioned figure, and your screen wavered, your mech slowed down slightly. That's it. You couldn't get any hotter than the aforementioned figure because, precisely, the half-implemented feature didn't track heat above it. This is a broken game mechanic, it doesn't function as advertized, the self-destruction that you're warned about so tersely is an empty bluff.

But is it fun? Who cares, it's insufficently congruent! It fails to conform to Article 18B, Section 9-5 of the official FASA rulebook!
Lord Higgenbottom of Monocle Manor wrote:

MW2 was, while it ran, far more an organic an experience than MW4 because there were far more limits that you could push, the rules themselves were clear and goddamn unforgiving, but within them you could play whichever way you goddamn pleased, to the level of complexity that -you- alone would like. MW2 functions within its own rules congruently, it didn't cut corners, it didn't just focus on how the game looked but rather on how it played, and Fuck it played a lot better than the newer one.

So there you go, MW2 is better than MW4 because it's so motherfucking congruent. CASE CLOSED.

When's the last time you actually played MW2 or MW2: Mercenaries? These games have not aged well. Even back when they were new they were all about finding exploits and tricking the system. Is that what you mean when you said it was "organic"?
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Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries review by The Joosh 03/07/2005, 1:59pm PST NEW
    Well, you always kicked my ass at it. by bink 03/07/2005, 5:35pm PST NEW
        4 is a lot better than 3. by uh 03/08/2005, 11:56pm PST NEW
            Re: 4 is a lot better than 3. by Casual observer 03/09/2005, 12:24am PST NEW
                Actually MW4, Black Knight, and Mercs were the best mech games ever made. NT by Creexul :( 03/09/2005, 2:38am PST NEW
                If you played MA1&2 you would remember not being able to config mechs NT by The Joosh 03/09/2005, 6:31am PST NEW
                Mechassault was Good??? by Mischief Maker 03/09/2005, 7:14am PST NEW
                    It was "good" but it's no MW by The Joosh 03/09/2005, 7:40am PST NEW
                        Re: It was "good" but it's no MW by Casual observer 03/09/2005, 7:58am PST NEW
                            Keyboard flipping of Fabio proportions. by Creexul :( 03/09/2005, 8:04am PST NEW
                                Re: Keyboard flipping of Fabio proportions. by Casual observer 03/09/2005, 11:10pm PST NEW
                                    Here's a pillow, you know what to do with it. by Creexul :( 03/10/2005, 7:29am PST NEW
                                        Re: Here's a pillow, you know what to do with it. by Casual observer 03/10/2005, 11:36am PST NEW
                                            Thanks for telling in detail about your crying jag from losing bad at MW4. by Creexul :( 03/10/2005, 2:18pm PST NEW
                                                What a sin to expect the game to be what it says it is! NT by Casual Observer 03/10/2005, 3:31pm PST NEW
                                                    Especially when it says REALTIME TACTICAL COMBAT! by Creexul :( 03/10/2005, 3:46pm PST NEW
                                                        To put a final note on all of this by Casual Observer 03/10/2005, 3:57pm PST NEW
                                                            Re: To put a final note on all of this by Mysterio 03/10/2005, 4:10pm PST NEW
                                                                Mysterio turns back on checkered past to fight for JUSTICE by bombMexico 03/10/2005, 6:42pm PST NEW
                                                            Actually it seems the consensus is that you're a nobody who's dumb. by Creexul :( 03/10/2005, 4:16pm PST NEW
                                                                This site's cornerstone is negativity you weepy bitches. by Casual Observer 03/10/2005, 4:40pm PST NEW
                                                                    Re: This site's cornerstone is negativity you weepy bitches. by Creexul :( 03/10/2005, 4:49pm PST NEW
                                                                    But you've missed the most important aspect of that negativity! by Mysterio 03/10/2005, 5:10pm PST NEW
                                                                        Casual Observer: the new Binro? NT by laudablepuss 03/10/2005, 5:47pm PST NEW
                                                                            Possibly the old binro. NT by Creexul :( 03/10/2005, 6:10pm PST NEW
                                                                                Just wanted to chime in here and say by The Cheap Zseni Machine 03/10/2005, 6:19pm PST NEW
                                                                                    Well. I disagree. NT by bink 03/11/2005, 4:26am PST NEW
                                                                        How's that workin' out for ya? by bink 03/11/2005, 4:23am PST NEW
                                                                            Eh, Overrated. NT by Mysterio 03/11/2005, 2:44pm PST NEW
                                                                    Re: This site's cornerstone is negativity you weepy bitches. by Bill Dungsroman 03/10/2005, 7:57pm PST NEW
                                                            No, you are wrong. by bink 03/11/2005, 4:22am PST NEW
                                                                Psh, see that, Casual Observer? Now you've got bink disregarding your opinion.:( NT by I need clarification 03/11/2005, 10:20am PST NEW
                                                                    It's agony from which I'll never recover. by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 11:57am PST NEW
                                                                        Wow, add some pictures and that could be a review by Voyons Donc 03/11/2005, 1:38pm PST NEW
                                                                            Re: Wow, add some pictures and that could be a review by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 2:43pm PST NEW
                                                                                Re: Wow, add some pictures and that could be a review by Voyons Donc 03/11/2005, 3:46pm PST NEW
                                                                                    Directional JumpJets you skill-less twat. NT by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 4:55pm PST NEW
                                                                                        Is "skill-less" a real word? Hyphen and all? So cerebral! NT by Voyons Donc 03/13/2005, 1:22pm PST NEW
                                                                                            That's definitely too cerebral for a plebian like YOU. >:( NT by Creexul :( 03/13/2005, 6:12pm PST NEW
                                                                            I would've made a reply like this to casual stupid. by Creexul :( 03/11/2005, 6:01pm PST NEW
                                                                                In other words, you can't prove me wrong. NT by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 6:10pm PST NEW
                                                                                    Everyone else, including me, already has like 20 times. by Creexul :( 03/11/2005, 6:13pm PST NEW
                                                                                        Point out one instance where my arguments have been disproven. GO! NT by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 6:23pm PST NEW
                                                                                            Okay. This entire thread. DONE! NT by Creexul :( 03/11/2005, 7:32pm PST NEW
                                                                        ZZZZzzzzzzzzzz... by Mischief Maker 03/11/2005, 1:51pm PST NEW
                                                                        This entire "review" is basically incorrect, and not worth the time quoting NT by The Joosh 03/11/2005, 2:19pm PST NEW
                                                                            Prove it. NT by Casual Observer 03/11/2005, 2:28pm PST NEW
                                                                                It was made by you. That's proof enough. NT by Mysterio 03/11/2005, 2:49pm PST NEW
                                                                                    Potshooting half-wit. If you want to lay in on him, do it once and well. NT by Better Mysterios past 03/11/2005, 3:46pm PST NEW
                                                                                        Am i defending one Mysterio or attacking both? I'm so confused. by bombMexico 03/11/2005, 5:33pm PST NEW
                                                                                            You only have -that- one issue? NT by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 5:41pm PST NEW
                                                                                                But he's in like EVERY panel of that one by bombMexico 03/11/2005, 7:18pm PST NEW
                                                                                                    Just who are you caling a homo, you comic-scanning FAG? by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 7:24pm PST NEW
                                                                                                        Re: Just who are you caling a homo, you comic-scanning FAG? by The Cheap Zseni Machine 03/11/2005, 8:50pm PST NEW
                                                                                                            Re: Just who are you caling a homo, you comic-scanning FAG? by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 9:04pm PST NEW
                                                                                                                Re: Just who are you caling a homo, you comic-scanning FAG? by The Cheap Zseni Machine 03/11/2005, 9:59pm PST NEW
                                                                                                                    As usual. by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 10:27pm PST NEW
                                                                                                                        Re: As usual. by The Cheap Zseni Machine 03/12/2005, 8:25am PST NEW
                                                                        Re: It's agony from which I'll never recover. by Creexul :( 03/11/2005, 6:09pm PST NEW
                                                                            Re: It's agony from which I'll never recover. by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 6:22pm PST NEW
                                                                                Re: It's agony from which I'll never recover. by Creexul :( 03/11/2005, 7:33pm PST NEW
                                                                                    I already declared victory some thirty posts ago, that shell has been spent. NT by with older drivers, Casual observer 03/11/2005, 7:41pm PST NEW
                                                                                        Except people aren't done gut laffing at you. NT by Creexul :( 03/11/2005, 7:58pm PST NEW
                                                                                            And you still lost NT by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 8:14pm PST NEW
                                                                                                Wow. That is my only response. by Creexul :( 03/11/2005, 8:21pm PST NEW
                                                                                                    Trying to deflect the issue ain't gonna help, boyah! NT by Casual observer 03/11/2005, 8:24pm PST NEW
                                                                                                        No, no, make no mistake: you're a horrible, terrible poster. by I need clarification 03/12/2005, 11:49am PST NEW
                                                                                                            Re: No, no, make no mistake: you're a horrible, terrible poster. by Casual observer 03/12/2005, 12:08pm PST NEW
                                                                                                                Persona? by False 03/12/2005, 2:03pm PST NEW
                                                                                                                Gayness: starting to stack up with you. by Creexul :( 03/12/2005, 5:35pm PST NEW
                                                                        I'm fucking sick of this thread. NT by bink 03/13/2005, 4:17am PST NEW
                            go douche NT by The Joosh 03/09/2005, 12:01pm PST NEW
                        There won't be a MW5, anytime, anywhere, and we'll sue if there is. NT by Microsoft BeanCounter Department. 03/10/2005, 12:33pm PST NEW
                    Re: Mechassault was Good??? by FABIO 03/09/2005, 1:22pm PST NEW
                        Mechassault doesn't suck, dammit it is better than everquest you fag NT by The Joosh 03/09/2005, 4:06pm PST NEW
                            The Jsoh/MW wars are hotting up. NT by Fussbett 03/09/2005, 4:33pm PST NEW
                                That's......... that's hot. :( NT by Paris "Seasoned Whore" Hilton 03/09/2005, 4:46pm PST NEW
                                WHY CANT WE STOP HATING NT by Cat Stevens - Peace Train.mp3 03/09/2005, 5:41pm PST NEW
                            What about Mech Fucking Commander 2? by laudablepuss 03/09/2005, 9:32pm PST NEW
                                Re: What about Mech Fucking Commander 2? by Casual observer 03/09/2005, 11:11pm PST NEW
                                    Re: What about Mech Fucking Commander 2? by 8===> 03/10/2005, 1:16am PST NEW
                                    Re: What about Mech Fucking Commander 2? by Creexul :( 03/10/2005, 7:31am PST NEW
                                        Re: What about Mech Fucking Commander 2? by Casual observer 03/10/2005, 11:22am PST NEW
                                            Re: What about Mech Fucking Commander 2? by Creexul :( 03/10/2005, 1:55pm PST NEW
                                                In what concerns you, that illusion becomes reality. NT by Casual Observer 03/10/2005, 2:02pm PST NEW
                                                    I can't wait for your essay on Rainbow Six 2 vs the DREADFUL Splinter Cell. by Creexul :( 03/10/2005, 2:23pm PST NEW
                                            Re: What about Mech Fucking Commander 2? by Mysterio 03/10/2005, 2:50pm PST NEW
                                                Dumbass nobody Casual Observer, trumped by a Mysterio? NT by Creexul :( 03/10/2005, 3:09pm PST NEW
                                                Flop : Failure of the game by Casual Observer 03/10/2005, 3:29pm PST NEW
                                                    Re: Flop : Failure of the game by Mysterio 03/10/2005, 3:36pm PST NEW
                                MC2 is good NT by The Joosh 03/10/2005, 11:30am PST NEW
                                    Well played NT by Entropy Stew 03/10/2005, 12:24pm PST NEW
                        Nah, more like a 3rd-Person "Shogo" with a FASA License and shattering windows NT by Mischief Maker 03/09/2005, 6:25pm PST NEW
                            Blow me NT by Don't tell me you love me 03/09/2005, 6:58pm PST NEW
 
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