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Coversation is combat by Roop 08/31/2011, 9:39pm PDT
This is important, the way these Canadians came up with this, conversation can be combat too!

This medium will never be taken seriously until it can do human interaction better. It's all about sprites hitting each other, been that way for thirty years. It's time to grow up.

Ebert and other assholes arguing about Art.... I always hated that debate, we had it on OMM and I was bored then. There's artists that are hired, there is sculpting involved in making levels... but NO! Is the the thing itself, as a whole itself, can that be art?! Whatever, asshole. Have you ever made a living as an artist? No? Why are you asking, asshole? Fuck you! And shut the fuck up, fucking Ebert.

The better question is, can games be litRAture? Y'know, the way prancy englishman pronounce literature? You can't really take Virginia Woolf's "To the Lighthouse" and make it into a movie. It's basically impossible. Too much goes on in people's head's, and all the action you could show would be boring. People may try, but film just can't capture Steinbeck's "The Sound and the Fury." Same problem, the action is boring, but the best part goes on in the character's heads. Point of view flies all over the place in these novels. Make it a film, there's too much left out. Try it as a play, and fail also, assholes.

The dumb public doesn't remember these novels because they can't be movies, but if we just took this conversation system from Deus Ex, and evolved it a bit....

I'd play the game where you don't shoot anybody, instead have to fly between characters minds and manage ideas, and manipulate them. What the damn novels are about!

I've been wishing for such a game since the eighties, and I think it at this point it has to be somebody born in the eighties to make it. But this conversation system gives me hope. Once it isn't about some Cyborg, the game might actually have mass-market appeal, even!

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Coversation is combat by Roop 08/31/2011, 9:39pm PDT NEW
    Re: Coversation is combat by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/31/2011, 11:29pm PDT NEW
        Re: Coversation is combat by EVEN EARLIER 09/01/2011, 9:02pm PDT NEW
    Storytron! by Chris Crawford 09/01/2011, 12:04am PDT NEW
    Playing high school counselor to a Mexican pirate is a low point in the game by WITTGENSTEIN 09/01/2011, 8:01am PDT NEW
        Also: Failing conversation checks just makes your job a bit harder, that's all. by WITTGENSTEIN 09/01/2011, 8:10am PDT NEW
            Also you can't shoot any of those guys in the face afterward. NT by Worm 09/01/2011, 10:07am PDT NEW
            SPOILERS for Detroit hub, Sarif/Adam convo by Ice Cream Jonsey 09/01/2011, 11:20am PDT NEW
                You missed the point by WITTGENSTEIN 09/01/2011, 3:55pm PDT NEW
                    Re: You missed the point by Ice Cream Jonsey 09/01/2011, 6:48pm PDT NEW
                Re: SPOILERS for Detroit hub, Sarif/Adam convo by Lizard_King 09/02/2011, 4:50pm PDT NEW
                    Re: SPOILERS for Detroit hub, Sarif/Adam convo by Ice Cream Jonsey 09/05/2011, 9:47pm PDT NEW
                        Re: SPOILERS for Detroit hub, Sarif/Adam convo by Lizard_King 09/06/2011, 6:49am PDT NEW
                            The only firefight that really had me flipping my keyboard/wanting gas resist is by WITTGENSTEIN 09/06/2011, 6:25pm PDT NEW
                                The only firefight that really had me flipping my keyboard/wanting gas resist is by Bradley Svedka. 09/06/2011, 7:13pm PDT NEW
                                You can just sneak past them like .... fucking everything. NT by Worm 09/07/2011, 12:10am PDT NEW
            conversations meant as combat: "winning" those nets you like 1750xp NT by jeep 09/06/2011, 10:53am PDT NEW
                OH SHIT ALERT THE INTERNET by WITTGENSTEIN 09/06/2011, 12:19pm PDT NEW
                    it's almost half a praxis in the first couple sections of the game by jeep 09/06/2011, 12:41pm PDT NEW
                        Hey, when do the majority of most of these important conversations take place? by WITTGENSTEIN 09/06/2011, 6:23pm PDT NEW
                            The game has very little consequences. I guess you can get your cop friend fired by Worm 09/07/2011, 12:09am PDT NEW
    Re: Coversation is combat by motherfuckerfoodeater 09/01/2011, 11:12am PDT NEW
        Re: Coversation is combat by Roop 09/05/2011, 9:05pm PDT NEW
 
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