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Secret Origins of... The Cleric by Jerry Whorebach 01/02/2011, 10:34pm PST
Old Geezer wrote:

Re: [Historical] Where did the Cleric/Mage split come from?

Ahem. I was there.

In CHAINMAIL there were wizards that functioned as artillery.

Then there was Dave Arneson's first miniatures/roleplaying campaign. Some players were 'good guys' and some players were 'bad guys' and Dave was the referee.

One of the 'bad guys' wanted to play a Vampire. He was extremely smart and capable, and as he got more and more experience he got tougher and tougher.

This was the early 70s, so the model for 'vampire' was Christopher Lee in Hammer films. No deep folklore shit.

Well, after a time, nobody could touch Sir Fang. Yes, that was his name.

To fix the threatened end of the game they came up with a character that was, at first, a 'vampire hunter'. Peter Cushing in the same films.

As the rough specs were drawn up, comments about the need for healing and for curing disease came up.

Ta da, the "priest" was born. Changed later to 'cleric'.

The bit about edged weapons was from Gary's reading the old stories about Archbishop Turpin, who wielded a mace because he didn't want to shed blood ("who lives by the sword dies by the sword").

In other words, it came about the same way that 90% of the D&D rules came about :

WE MADE UP SOME SHIT THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE FUN.

Alright, so I was a little off on the specifics. You've still got to admire their enthusiasm!
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Dragon Age: Awakening - Positive! by Fortinbras 11/17/2010, 12:04pm PST NEW
    Re: Dragon Age: Awakening - Positive! by Ice Cream Jonsey 11/18/2010, 7:36am PST NEW
        The tactical combat is. . . pretty fun. by motherfuckerfoodeater 11/18/2010, 9:16am PST NEW
            Re: The tactical combat is. . . pretty fun. by Kenji Carter 11/18/2010, 12:27pm PST NEW
                The cleric has been dying since the day he was born. by Jerry Whorebach 11/18/2010, 3:54pm PST NEW
                    I still dug the AD&D1,2 cleric, which felt kind of like a KOTOR jedi consular by Fullofkittens 11/18/2010, 5:03pm PST NEW
                    Jerry doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. 3.5 Clerics were awesome. by Fortinbras 11/18/2010, 5:18pm PST NEW
                        Jack of all trades, master of... all? That doesn't sound right. by Jerry Whorebach 11/18/2010, 5:45pm PST NEW
                        Amazingly, Fortinbras can write a post that is technically correct (we assume) NT by and Jerry's error post is still btr 11/18/2010, 7:07pm PST NEW
                        Re: Jerry doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. by N 11/19/2010, 6:32pm PST NEW
                    Your sense of D&D archetypes is for shit. by motherfuckerfoodeater 11/20/2010, 9:51am PST NEW
                        Jerry does rule. 8) NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 11/20/2010, 12:07pm PST NEW
                    Holy Shit Jerry by Ice Cream Jonsey 11/20/2010, 12:07pm PST NEW
                        good job, jerry! NT by up with pod people 12/03/2010, 11:48am PST NEW
                            Yeah, when is this coming about again NT by Souffle of Pain 01/07/2011, 6:53pm PST NEW
                                ICJ covered his ass by not specifying a year. NT by laudablepuss 01/07/2011, 7:06pm PST NEW
                    Secret Origins of... The Cleric by Jerry Whorebach 01/02/2011, 10:34pm PST NEW
                        You were also wrong about the archetype for thieves. by motherfuckerfoodeater 01/02/2011, 11:20pm PST NEW
                            Where did I claim that the thief of D&D was patterned after Robin Hood? by Jerry Whorebach 01/02/2011, 11:58pm PST NEW
                                Look here, young fellow by motherfuckerfoodeater 01/03/2011, 2:25pm PST NEW
                                    Much better! I'm learning things from you already. by Jerry Whorebach 01/03/2011, 7:52pm PST NEW
                                        Re: Much better! I'm learning things from you already. by Shredder 01/03/2011, 9:24pm PST NEW
                                            Re: Much better! I'm learning things from you already. by motherfuckerfoodeater 01/04/2011, 11:26am PST NEW
 
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