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Re: Actually perhaps they ARE very different movies. by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 7:08pm PDT
Creexuls, a monster >:3 wrote:

laudablepuss wrote:

Right, no dialogue about shields in Khan. Oh, except that guy hitting the console with his fist and crying (literally crying) "I CAN'T!!!". Where's the override, the override. Oh god the override.


So that's like what, 2 lines? To the 20 in Nemesis. And I thought I was bad at math.

Also in both movies they hide in a nebula for the fight. Spock transfers his whatever to McCoy before sacrificing himself, and Data transfers his memory information to B4 before sacrificing himself. Except of course if Data could just be replaced with older versions of him that have the same memories, then there was absolutely nothing unique about Data and could probably be remade a million times over, so they really just retroactively ruined the character instead of pretending he could be "revived" in any way.

Is it sinking in yet? Have you a singular wit?


"Do we have power for phasers?" "A few short sir!" "Not enough against their shields."
"Sulu, get those shields up!" "Trying sir."
"We daren't follow them into the nebula. Our shields would be useless."
"Our shields are collapsing, captain!"
"Problem with the nebula sir, is all of that discharging gas clouds tactical and shields will be inoperative." -- I forget how she worded that one exactly.

Also, three or four closeups of the control panel showing shields going up or going down.

But yes, I'm aware that Data and Spock are essentially the same guy in the two different series.
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I personally guarantee the new Star Trek will be awesome. by Last 10/16/2008, 9:27am PDT NEW
    what's the enterprise doing with a NT by steve jobs looking character? 10/16/2008, 12:22pm PDT NEW
        That's Captain Kirk, he captains the ship. by Last 10/16/2008, 12:46pm PDT NEW
            And you know a Star Trek move that features Kirk Mountainclimbing has to be good NT by Mischief Maker 10/16/2008, 12:49pm PDT NEW
    You're being sarcastic, right? by Mischief Maker 10/16/2008, 12:47pm PDT NEW
    Handheld cam shots of hip suburban Kirk and Spock talking about their favorite b by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 1:12pm PDT NEW
        Re: Handheld cam shots of hip suburban Kirk and Spock talking about their favori by Last 10/16/2008, 1:24pm PDT NEW
            Because they are about the movie? NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 2:31pm PDT NEW
            heh. . . Sulu NT by swallow. . . heh 10/17/2008, 3:44pm PDT NEW
    I will guarantee Last's guarantee by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/16/2008, 1:33pm PDT NEW
        Re: I will guarantee Last's guarantee by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 2:20pm PDT NEW
            Nemsis was without any merit by FABIO 10/16/2008, 3:07pm PDT NEW
                I'm aware of your (wrong) opinion. NT by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 3:13pm PDT NEW
            Here is why Nemesis sucked: an opinion by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/16/2008, 3:30pm PDT NEW
                Also, to calibrate by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/16/2008, 3:31pm PDT NEW
                Wasn't there a scene where Picard and them were stealing the dunebuggy... by Last 10/16/2008, 4:05pm PDT NEW
                Re: Here is why Nemesis sucked: an opinion by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 4:14pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Here is why Nemesis sucked: an opinion by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 4:17pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Here is why Nemesis sucked: an opinion by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 4:19pm PDT NEW
                            The Enterprise is almost totally destroyed and a main character sacrifices thems by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 5:36pm PDT NEW
                                Actually perhaps they ARE very different movies. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 5:47pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: Actually perhaps they ARE very different movies. by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 5:55pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: Actually perhaps they ARE very different movies. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 6:35pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: Actually perhaps they ARE very different movies. by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 7:08pm PDT NEW
                                                Judging by your post here, if you liked Nemesis, you'll love Voyager. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 7:23pm PDT NEW
                                                    Here's a Star Trek episode that laudablepuss thinks is really great. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 7:27pm PDT NEW
                                                        That's the victory bell ringing. Thanks, it was fun. NT by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 7:32pm PDT NEW
                                                            So you actually liked that episode? No wonder you don't understand why Nemesis s NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 7:37pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: Judging by your post here, if you liked Nemesis, you'll love Voyager. by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 7:31pm PDT NEW
                                                        Re: Judging by your post here, if you liked Nemesis, you'll love Voyager. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 7:37pm PDT NEW
                                                            Thought you could slip this in there, huh? by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 9:18pm PDT NEW
                                                                Re: Thought you could slip this in there, huh? by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 9:33pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Re: Thought you could slip this in there, huh? by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 10:02pm PDT NEW
                                                                        Re: Thought you could slip this in there, huh? by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 10:58pm PDT NEW
                                Re: The Enterprise is almost totally destroyed and a main character sacrifices t by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 5:52pm PDT NEW
                                    You must not have if you don't see how Nemesis ripped off Wrath of Khan. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 6:18pm PDT NEW
                                        DS9 isn't Trek. It's a Babylon 5 ripoff. NT by Mischief Maker 10/16/2008, 6:27pm PDT NEW
                                            You watched Babylon 5? NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 6:31pm PDT NEW
                                            Also DS9 is infinitely superior to Babylon 5 for AT LEAST one reason. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 6:53pm PDT NEW
                                                Worf NT by Fortinbras 10/16/2008, 8:56pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: Also DS9 is infinitely superior to Babylon 5 for AT LEAST one reason. by Cannibal Dave 10/16/2008, 11:05pm PDT NEW
                                                Also, Jake Sisco NT by Guy Desperately Trying to Fit In 10/16/2008, 11:18pm PDT NEW
                                                    Nog! NT by Fag 454 10/16/2008, 11:20pm PDT NEW
                                                        Post leg amputation. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/17/2008, 12:09am PDT NEW
                                        You sure are smart. by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 6:54pm PDT NEW
                                            I just want to emphasize by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 7:02pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: You sure are smart. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 7:04pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: You sure are smart. by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 7:11pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: You sure are smart. by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/16/2008, 9:19pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: You sure are smart. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 9:34pm PDT NEW
                                                First Contact was horrible and you know it. by Mischief Maker 10/17/2008, 6:32am PDT NEW
                                                    I agree about the borg queen, and occasional cheesy moments. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/17/2008, 11:30am PDT NEW
                                                Here's a much simpler reason by FABIO 10/17/2008, 2:44pm PDT NEW
                                            When I got on the elevator, someone had already pushed the damn bridge button NT by Scotty 10/17/2008, 4:33pm PDT NEW
                                                We need a Caltrops ombudsman so I don't miss posts like this one NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/23/2008, 7:35pm PDT NEW
                                                    I agree, that's a good post. by Fussbett 10/23/2008, 9:37pm PDT NEW
                                                        DS9 never got bad, except for the Ferengi episodes, those pretty much sucked. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/23/2008, 9:44pm PDT NEW
                                        Goddamn, Creex. Goddamn NT by Souffle of Pain 04/08/2009, 8:28pm PDT NEW
                                Re: The Enterprise is almost totally destroyed and a main character sacrifices by FABIO 10/17/2008, 12:28am PDT NEW
                                    Re: The Enterprise is almost totally destroyed and a main character sacrifices by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/17/2008, 12:50am PDT NEW
                The only single good part of the movie and of B4. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 4:16pm PDT NEW
                pictoral review of Nemisis that I happen to agree with by Weyoun Voidbringer 10/16/2008, 4:20pm PDT NEW
                    Did you sleep well? I did; I'm 12 hours closer to death! NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/16/2008, 5:40pm PDT NEW
                    That pretty much sums up why it's objectively awful by FABIO 10/17/2008, 12:07am PDT NEW
                        yeah that's why I posted it >:( NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 10/18/2008, 10:19am PDT NEW
            Laudable, the ultimate troll? by Cannibal Dave 10/17/2008, 4:12pm PDT NEW
                Re: Laudable, the ultimate troll? by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/17/2008, 4:16pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Laudable, the ultimate troll? by Mischief Maker 10/17/2008, 4:25pm PDT NEW
        My favorite is the one with the whales. :( NT by Fullofkittens 11/29/2008, 5:01pm PST NEW
            That's what my sister calls it. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 11/29/2008, 5:07pm PST NEW
    Are they trying to bring the Smallville treatment to another nerd franchise now? NT by FABIO 10/16/2008, 3:07pm PDT NEW
        Re: Are they trying to bring the Smallville treatment to another nerd franchise by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 3:17pm PDT NEW
            Stupid apostrophe. :( NT by laudablepuss 10/16/2008, 3:17pm PDT NEW
            Meh. Focus on characters and story arcs are what killed the Trek franchise. NT by Mischief Maker 10/16/2008, 4:30pm PDT NEW
                No, Voyager and Enterprise and being on UPN killed Trek. NT by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 10/16/2008, 5:52pm PDT NEW
                    Pineapple cake killed Enterprise NT by Entropy Stew 10/18/2008, 2:56am PDT NEW
                        "The weapon" killed Enterprise by FABIO 10/18/2008, 2:54pm PDT NEW
                            There wasn't really any point in making Enterprise, period. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/18/2008, 3:37pm PDT NEW
                            You don't understand, it was an analogy for September the Eleventh. by Jerry Whorebach 10/18/2008, 3:57pm PDT NEW
            Also, Nosferatu builds an orbital laser beam to blow up Vulcan by Mischief Maker 11/26/2008, 7:26am PST NEW
    ok, I am interested and hopeful by Weyoun Voidbringer 10/16/2008, 4:25pm PDT NEW
        Re: ok, I am interested and hopeful by I need clarification 10/16/2008, 11:27pm PDT NEW
            Maybe slightly below average with some good parts. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/17/2008, 12:01am PDT NEW
    Next time, on a very special JJ Abrams Star trek (on the WB) NT by Fortinbras 10/16/2008, 8:51pm PDT NEW
    It's not like the original Chekov and Sulu needed the work... OH WAIT :( by Jerry Whorebach 10/18/2008, 2:12am PDT NEW
        You misunderstand, Doohan only fingered her. *BA DUMP PAASSSH* NT by Last 10/18/2008, 10:52am PDT NEW
    The new Enterprise is terrible. :( NT by laudablepuss 11/12/2008, 7:17pm PST NEW
        almost as terrible as the tos enterprise by Weyoun Voidbringer 11/12/2008, 9:09pm PST NEW
            TOS enterprise doesn't look enough like a cock for you? by Mischief Maker 11/18/2008, 8:09pm PST NEW
                That's . . . bizarre. Does somebody really think this? NT by laudablepuss 11/25/2008, 6:59pm PST NEW
    Nobody wants to weigh in on the new trailer? by motherfuckerfoodeater 11/18/2008, 3:54pm PST NEW
        I like how Nosferatu has a switchblade scepter. He's the bad guy, right? NT by Mischief Maker 11/18/2008, 4:40pm PST NEW
        The stuff exploding was neat. NT by laudablepuss 11/18/2008, 5:01pm PST NEW
        Tween Kirk was a retarded asshole? Cornfield shipyard? Otherwise, looks ok. NT by Last 11/18/2008, 5:16pm PST NEW
            The Apollo program was the final word on spaceship construction, apparently. NT by laudablepuss 11/18/2008, 6:26pm PST NEW
                Seaquest, Enterprise, and now JJ Abrams Star Trek all start with cornfields NT by Fortinbras 11/18/2008, 7:32pm PST NEW
        I wann be on the spaceship, dad! by FABIO 11/18/2008, 11:23pm PST NEW
            That story is easily as good as the Doom movie. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 11/18/2008, 11:56pm PST NEW
        Apparently the version I first saw was edited for vomit prevention. by Mischief Maker 11/25/2008, 6:53pm PST NEW
            Hey wanna play Thelma and Louise ha ha waaaaaaa look out look out look out look NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 11/26/2008, 4:13am PST NEW
    So in anticipation, what's your vote for the all-time worst TOS episode? by Mischief Maker 11/23/2008, 8:25pm PST NEW
        The Halloween episode was pretty bad. NT by Jerry Whorebach 11/23/2008, 8:52pm PST NEW
        spocks brain and that other one by Weyoun Voidbringer 11/23/2008, 9:26pm PST NEW
            The Conscience of the King. Horrible. :( by laudablepuss 11/24/2008, 5:15pm PST NEW
                A ringa ding ding ding.......... ding. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 11/24/2008, 5:16pm PST NEW
                what halloween one? by Weyoun Voidbringer 11/24/2008, 5:18pm PST NEW
                    Re: what halloween one? by laudablepuss 11/24/2008, 5:54pm PST NEW
                        Re: what halloween one? by krd 11/24/2008, 8:05pm PST NEW
                            "The cat is the most ruthless, most terrifying of animals." NT by Spock 11/24/2008, 8:12pm PST NEW
    Early reviews are positive. by Last 04/08/2009, 9:18am PDT NEW
        Re: Early reviews are positive. by Souffle of Pain 04/08/2009, 8:31pm PDT NEW
    94% on Rotten Tomatoes with 109 reviews. NT by Last 05/07/2009, 11:51am PDT NEW
        Star Trek: First Contact - 91% GO SEE IT FOLKS NT by Fortinbras 05/08/2009, 9:17pm PDT NEW
            sometimes RT is right (then again they gave over 90% to michael moore's "films") NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 05/09/2009, 12:41am PDT NEW
 
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