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Eye of the Beholder
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by Quentin Beck 06/28/2007, 10:14pm PDT |
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Mischief Maker wrote:
The point is that your attemtion is so focused on the basketballs that you don't notice the gorilla suit.
I bet this guy thinks you're full of shit. I do too.
Other things happening in the circle that I didn't pick up on (but should have given the way I'm primed): one of the players is Asian (!), someone spray painted two S's on the wall (?), everyone's wearing a wristwatch; everyone looks like shit, etc... None of that occurred to me. Here I was like an idiot counting basketball passes as I was told. It's fucking hard.
Mischief Maker wrote:
Well it's about stranger identification. My apologies for not pointing that out.
Why apologize? It's not about stranger identification. It's about the limits of our visual short term memory. If we were asked to note the features of the participants beforehand and recall those features later then maybe it would have something to with stranger identification, but we were asked to count basketball passes. If you asked me what I could tell you about the people passing the basketball after my first run through of the video, I would say, "Fuck all. I was counting basketball passes." Was I surprised that someone in a black suit with a gorilla mask passed through the circle? "Not really, I was counting basketball passes. It's fucking hard. One of those assholes was faking a bounce pass by dribbling the ball."
Mischief Maker wrote:
It's all as a warm up for helping the class understand cases like this where, thanks in part to suggestive lineup procedures, the witness becomes dead certain the suspect is the one who did it only for DNA evidence to clear them after they spend a long-ass time in jail.
Hell hath no fury like a woman raped.
"I picked the same man in a lineup. Again, I was sure. I knew it. I had picked the right guy, and he was going to go to jail. If there was the possibility of a death sentence, I wanted him to die. I wanted to flip the switch."
I don't think it's surprising that a woman this angry could convince herself that someone who looked very similar to a guy who raped her was in fact the guy. It's clearly very important to her that someone be punished for what happened for the sake of closure or whatever. I don't think this has anything to do with the patterns of attention shown by those watching the passing of a basketball.
Mischief Maker wrote:
Don't forget that when an innocent man's in prison, the real killer/rapist is still on the loose, only now no one's looking for him.
Or, far more often, the killer(slash rapist) gets off due to the disrepute of eyewitness testimony. He is also free to kill and rape but now feels invincible. |
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Eyewitness testimony by Mischief Maker 06/27/2007, 11:23pm PDT 
Re: Eyewitness testimony by Bruce Lee\\\'s mother-in-law 06/27/2007, 11:53pm PDT
It doesn't matter, the whole point is to keep violent criminals out of jail. by Jerry Whorebach 06/28/2007, 12:02am PDT
Re: Eyewitness testimony by laudablepuss 06/28/2007, 3:38am PDT
Have you ever seen this test performed in different circumstances? by Quentin Beck 06/28/2007, 12:26am PDT
But it was too late, MM's post already made a murderer go free. by Jhoh Cable o_O 06/28/2007, 12:48am PDT
Re: Have you ever seen this test performed in different circumstances? by Flagrio 06/28/2007, 7:03am PDT
Re: Have you ever seen this test performed in different circumstances? by Mischief Maker 06/28/2007, 7:16am PDT
Re: Have you ever seen this test performed in different circumstances? by Quentin Beck 06/28/2007, 10:14pm PDT
How to get away with murder by Flavilio 06/28/2007, 11:30pm PDT
Like MGS3 when Snake loses his eye? NT by Jhoh Cable o_O 06/29/2007, 12:13am PDT
Re: Eyewitness testimony by Cubey 06/28/2007, 5:14am PDT
These videos only work on the generation before MTV edits and video games. NT by Fussbett 06/28/2007, 9:15am PDT
Cialdini's "Influence" is an amazing book. Everyone should read it. by Ray of Light 06/28/2007, 12:29pm PDT
What is it with the body launguage/persuasion guru crowd by Flagrio 06/28/2007, 7:23pm PDT
What brought this on? by Ray of Light 06/28/2007, 8:42pm PDT
Re: What brought this on? by The Happiness Engine 07/04/2007, 10:53pm PDT
Re: Cialdini's "Influence" is an amazing book. Everyone should read it. by Choson 06/29/2007, 9:26am PDT
It explains a lot ... about all of us. B-| NT by Ray of Light 06/29/2007, 4:52pm PDT
This is all related to the Sassy, Ray and Choson incident. I'm sure of it! NT by Quentin Beck 06/29/2007, 5:24pm PDT
First of all, it's the "Sassy and Ray" incident. And, secondly, no. by Ray of Light 06/29/2007, 5:28pm PDT
Re: First of all, it's the "Sassy and Ray" incident. And, secondly, no. by Quentin Beck 07/01/2007, 9:18pm PDT
Re: First of all, it's the "Sassy and Ray" incident. And, secondly, no. by Ray of Light 07/01/2007, 10:41pm PDT
Re: First of all, it's the "Sassy and Ray" incident. And, secondly, no. by Choson 07/03/2007, 2:55am PDT
Re: First of all, it's the "Sassy and Ray" incident. And, secondly, no. by Jhoh Cable o_O 07/03/2007, 4:19am PDT
Were you listening to me, or were you looking at the woman in the red dress, Neo NT by Grumah 06/29/2007, 10:40am PDT
Aw Crap by Mischief McGoo 11/28/2007, 12:18pm PST
Re: Aw Crap by FABIO 11/28/2007, 7:11pm PST
Re: Aw Crap by Mischief McGoo 11/28/2007, 8:35pm PST
Moral: cross-racial identification is hard, if you're a stupid cracker bitch. NT by Jerry Whorebach 11/29/2007, 2:33am PST
Re: Aw Crap by FABIO 11/29/2007, 11:59am PST
http://www.spring.org.uk/2008/02/how-memories-are-distorted-and-invented.php by Ray of Light Presents 02/10/2008, 7:41pm PST
WOMEN LIE (KICK THEM RIGHT IN THE FACE) NT by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 02/11/2008, 6:22am PST
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