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Re: That's exactly what I did, in fact by Lizard_King 09/03/2003, 6:21pm PDT
Senor Barborito wrote:

I jumped straight from an extremely rational discussion to the twilight zone, but I had a damned good reason - I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS IDEA AND IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY(ER).

But yeah, let's assume we attach an employed 30 hours a week requirement to this - why does it fail?

--SB


Because, unless I am misreading your barebones approach to redistribution, there is absolutely no cash incentive for anyone to do anything more demanding than minimal skill jobs. While SOME may continue in their current high stress/responsibility/risk occupations, there is no way that even they will function at the same level that they did prior to the income redistribution. Forget about what that would mean in terms of the value of education and training...yours would surely be a path to an even dumber America.

Given that that we are yet to see an economic system that does away with hierarchy, no matter how many varations of "egalitarian" they attach to its label, you would unavoidably see (to paraphrase Rand, since we are dipping into the fringe arguments she dispatches so well) an aristocracy of pull (influence, favours, etc) replacing the much more transparent and efficient one of money.

In short, you are begging for economic stagnation that would make France look dynamic by comparison, since at the very least they retain some measure of income inequality. The difference being that the US in such a position would mean the rest of the world goes to hell.

That is, totally ignoring the issue of the amount of confiscation of private funds that such a plan would require, and what it would mean to have virtually all the wealth locked in at the government's disposal. And the "never going to fucking happen in America no matter how you sell it and how many commie immigrants you turn into voters" factor.
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Cronkite's reduces the Democratic Party to 10 points. Hopefully. by Senor Barborito 08/31/2003, 4:45am PDT NEW
    Re: Cronkite's reduces the Democratic Party to 10 points. Hopefully. by Lizard_King 08/31/2003, 2:17pm PDT NEW
        Dammit! All those screeching noises make my head hurt! NT by foogla 08/31/2003, 3:34pm PDT NEW
        Re: Cronkite's reduces the Democratic Party to 10 points. Hopefully. by Callow Sniper 09/01/2003, 12:22am PDT NEW
            Goddamnit TS, don't tell me you were McFly! NT by OG Callow Sniper 09/01/2003, 6:49am PDT NEW
                Just to CLARIFY TS is not me. by McFly 09/01/2003, 2:08pm PDT NEW
        Sorry to take so long, spent three days packing all day by Senor Barborito 09/02/2003, 7:33am PDT NEW
            Re: Sorry to take so long, spent three days packing all day by The Happiness Engine 09/02/2003, 1:01pm PDT NEW
                Well, $2.625 trillion NT by Senor Barborito 09/02/2003, 2:13pm PDT NEW
            Re: Sorry to take so long, spent three days packing all day by Zebco Fuckface 09/03/2003, 12:56pm PDT NEW
                Re: Sorry to take so long, spent three days packing all day by Zebco Fuckface 09/03/2003, 12:58pm PDT NEW
                    Assuming we attach work requirement, why does this destroy the economy? by Senor Barborito 09/03/2003, 4:38pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Assuming we attach work requirement, why does this destroy the economy? by corax 09/04/2003, 3:30pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Sorry to take so long, spent three days packing all day by Mysterio 09/03/2003, 4:40pm PDT NEW
                        For whatever it's worth, above was me. rental pc :( NT by Lizard_King 09/03/2003, 5:45pm PDT NEW
                        That's exactly what I did, in fact by Senor Barborito 09/03/2003, 5:55pm PDT NEW
                            Re: That's exactly what I did, in fact by Lizard_King 09/03/2003, 6:21pm PDT NEW
                                AHA! Thanks, perfect. by Senor Barborito 09/03/2003, 6:32pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: AHA! Thanks, perfect. by Lizard_King 09/03/2003, 8:00pm PDT NEW
                                        No, I didn't, but thanks again anyway. NT by Senor Barborito 09/03/2003, 8:38pm PDT NEW
                                What he said, but he's wrong about France and selling equality in the US NT NT by Zebco Fuckface 09/04/2003, 7:06pm PDT NEW
                                    Really? Care to expand on that? I mean, NO I'M RIGHT FAAAG NT by Lizard_King 09/04/2003, 8:13pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: Really? Care to expand on that? I mean, NO I'M RIGHT FAAAG by Zebco Fuckface 09/07/2003, 5:21pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: Really? Care to expand on that? I mean, NO I'M RIGHT FAAAG by Lizard_King 09/07/2003, 6:03pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: Really? Care to expand on that? I mean, NO I'M RIGHT FAAAG by Zebco Fuckface 09/08/2003, 10:11pm PDT NEW
                                                    The term is Gini coefficient NT by Senor Barborito 09/08/2003, 11:00pm PDT NEW
                                                    huh. by Lizard_King 09/09/2003, 3:17pm PDT NEW
                                                        Re: huh. by Zebco Fuckface 09/09/2003, 5:12pm PDT NEW
                                                            Re: huh. by Lizard_King 09/10/2003, 2:06pm PDT NEW
                                                                Re: huh. by Zebco Fuckface 09/11/2003, 3:38pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Re: huh. by Lizard_King 09/11/2003, 3:55pm PDT NEW
 
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