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Ding ding! 500TH use of of the phrase 'straw man'! Your Limbaugh is showing. by I need clarification 07/01/2003, 11:13pm PDT
Lizard_King wrote:

Santorum wrote:

That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be.


It's NOT man on dog or man on child. He says, explicitly, they are not equivalent. And if you read the rest of the statement it is clear that the reason he sees bans on homosexuality as an important issue is not because he wants to send law abiding homosexuals to jail, it is because he does not see a law premised on morality alone as an inherently ridiculous concept, which is the basis under which the sodomy laws are under attack. A controversial position, to be sure, but not the straw man which fucking idiots like yourself persist in attributing to him, especially given the last several hundred years of American legal precedents.

Read your own quotes prior to melting down again.

Just how far are you willing to bend over (get it?) for this guy? Taking his quote completely out of context to reverse the meaning isn't going to make him a better person, or his argument any stronger.

So, for the extremely slow (you), I'll break it down for you. If I start too go to fast, kill yourself.

Senator Santorum wrote:

Every society in the history of man has upheld the institution of marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. Why? Because society is based on one thing: that society is based on the future of the society.

Precedent and tradition. As it has always been, it should always be. How far do we roll back? Voting rights for women? Slavery? You make the call!
Senator Santorum wrote:

And that's what? Children. Monogamous relationships.

Science! Biology! The only reason for marriage is to have children and perpetuate the society. Low sperm count? No marriage for you.
Senator Santorum wrote:

In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality.

Return to point #1. No one else has ever done it, why should we? Well, except Belgium and Canada. Also, Vermont seems to be leaning that way. So, we must never do it so that it won't ever have been done, thereby establishing and preserving a precedent in one move. Nice! Anyway, we're getting to the really awful part of your post. I'm still trying to decide if you're an idiot, or you've lost and are giving up:
Senator Santorum wrote:

That's not to pick on homosexuality.

Marriage isn't defined just as "not homosexuality..."
Senator Santorum wrote:

It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be.

...it's ALSO not defined as bestiality and pedophilia. I know you're big on logic, so I'm sure you can see that homosexuality, bestiality, and pedophilia are all on the same side of the equation - that side being "things that are not marriage."
Senator Santorum wrote:

It is one thing.

"I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have strange gods before me." Marriage is what it is. To change it would be to make it something else, and would destroy it. There cannot be creative change, and all change that has happened before has been destructive. Preserving institutions as they exist currently is the only way to perpetuate them.

Your reply above was the most dishonest thing I've ever seen you post. It's almost criminal.
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                                                    As criminal as being gay? ROFLOFLOFL by Lizard_King 07/02/2003, 11:25pm PDT NEW
                                                        I wish your surrenders were as graceful as mine :( NT by I need clarification 07/04/2003, 4:31pm PDT NEW
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