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by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:29pm PDT |
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I need clarification wrote:
Yeah, but what about money already owed to retirees? That's not a government hand-out, or of questionable value. The whole point of social security is in the title of the program. I don't want to work until I'm 95, I doubt you do either. And since the government forces my employer to withhold a certain amount of my income to pay into the current social security system, I'd just as soon the government guarantee those funds. As bad as the feds may be at bookkeeping, at least there is some guarantee. I trust them more than I do Ken Lay, personally.
Anyway, I'm not against giving people the option to throw away their retirement money on the Wall Street roulette wheel, but then we shouldn't make paying in to Social Security mandatory. And since that's impossible given the current system (we working people pay for current retirees, assuming our kids or grandkids will be paying for us), maybe bankrupting it isn't the best idea.
Good grief, I read that twice and was unable to find any personal attacks. You feeling ok?
The fact is that social security was premised, as you noted, as a pyramid scheme. Like any similarly corrupt idea, especially given the fact that human population levels do not grow exponentially, it WILL break down eventually, no matter how much we compromise prosperity and economic efficiency to prolong it. The trick now is to make it a graceful failure rather than a catastrophic one. Starving it chunk by chunk is a good start, I think. People survived before it was around, and will do so afterwards...given the choice to sink or swim, most will do the latter. |
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Chicago's curfew laws by Fullofkittens 06/13/2003, 9:19am PDT 
How about going after actual criminals? by Lizard_King 06/13/2003, 11:57am PDT 
An interesting idea! by Fullofkittens 06/13/2003, 1:13pm PDT 
Even Giuliani didn't use curfews, AFAIK. by Lizard_King 06/14/2003, 12:41pm PDT 
Yes, he did. NT by Chairman Mao 06/14/2003, 1:25pm PDT 
My mistake... by Lizard_King 06/14/2003, 1:50pm PDT 
Re: My mistake... by FoK 06/14/2003, 2:30pm PDT 
Re: My mistake... by Lizard_King 06/14/2003, 2:41pm PDT 
Re: My mistake... by Chairman Mao 06/15/2003, 2:04am PDT 
Asshole American the stereotype? Or Asshole American some OMM character?NT by Lizard_King 06/15/2003, 12:21pm PDT 
Long dead OMM celebrity. A Republican coffee drinker. NT by OMM historian 06/15/2003, 1:31pm PDT 
I see. NT by Lizard_King 06/15/2003, 3:15pm PDT 
No, I liked AA better by I need clarification 06/15/2003, 3:29pm PDT 
Re: No, I liked AA better by Chairman Mao 06/16/2003, 2:33am PDT 
Re: No, I liked AA better by I need clarification 06/16/2003, 3:08am PDT 
Re: No, I liked AA better by Jhoh Creexul 06/17/2003, 10:44am PDT 
Re: My mistake... by Also annoying, for them. 06/15/2003, 7:59am PDT 
Re: My mistake... by Lizard_King 06/15/2003, 12:19pm PDT 
Re: My mistake... by Lufteufel 06/15/2003, 1:59am PDT 
Re: My mistake... by FABIO 06/15/2003, 2:44am PDT 
What if you have a credit card? -n-motherfucking-t- by Chairman Mao 06/15/2003, 2:52am PDT 
then they bring you up on CHARGES! BWA HA HA HA HA! NT by FABIO 06/16/2003, 11:10pm PDT 
*weeps uncontrollably* NT by the fun pun crowd 06/17/2003, 1:37am PDT 
Re: How about going after actual criminals? by DidC0tMaSSiF 06/16/2003, 6:25am PDT 
Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Fussbett 06/16/2003, 7:17am PDT 
Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Choson 06/16/2003, 11:37am PDT 
Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 12:28pm PDT 
Actually by Entropy Stew 06/16/2003, 12:38pm PDT 
BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Chairman Mao 06/16/2003, 1:05pm PDT 
Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Entropy Stew 06/16/2003, 11:27pm PDT 
Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 11:10am PDT 
Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Chairman Mao 06/17/2003, 2:03pm PDT 
Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 7:55pm PDT 
Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Chairman Mao 06/17/2003, 8:09pm PDT 
Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 8:34pm PDT 
Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Chairman Mao 06/17/2003, 9:22pm PDT 
Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 9:41pm PDT 
Also by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 8:42pm PDT 
Re: How about going after actual criminals? by FoK 06/16/2003, 2:56pm PDT 
Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 5:05pm PDT 
You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by You 06/16/2003, 5:21pm PDT 
Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 8:34pm PDT 
Newsflash: YOU HAVE VERY LIMITED RIGHTS TILL YOU'RE 18 NT by Entropy Stew 06/16/2003, 11:33pm PDT 
TO AN EXTENT DETERMINED LARGELY BY YOUR LEGAL GUARDIANS by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 10:52am PDT 
Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by Ator 06/17/2003, 8:58am PDT 
Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by foogla 06/17/2003, 9:27am PDT 
Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 10:09am PDT 
No Shit. That's practically common knowledge. by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 10:56am PDT 
Re: No Shit. That's practically common knowledge. by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 11:17am PDT 
Pointing out something about Social Security by FoK 06/17/2003, 12:57pm PDT 
Re: No Shit. That's practically common knowledge. by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:29pm PDT 
Re: No Shit. That's practically common knowledge. by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:33pm PDT 
Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by Moab 06/17/2003, 10:34am PDT 
Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 11:03am PDT 
yeah by Moab 06/17/2003, 12:42pm PDT 
Ur no fun :( NT by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:33pm PDT 
Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Chairman Mao 06/16/2003, 5:35pm PDT 
Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 8:38pm PDT 
Re: How about going after actual criminals? by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 1:55am PDT 
Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 10:58am PDT 
Yeah, but less grease. by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 11:19am PDT 
Dunno. They don't exist 'round these parts or I'd be sure to ask. NT by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:31pm PDT 
Re: Dunno. They don't exist 'round these parts or I'd be sure to ask. by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 1:40pm PDT 
That's a common icecream ingredient, dumbshit.It even says so on the linked page NT by Entropy Stew 06/17/2003, 5:59pm PDT 
I never said it wasn't, genius. I just think it's interesting. Who knew? Not me. NT by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 6:25pm PDT 
Re: How about going after actual criminals? by E. L. Koba 06/16/2003, 10:54pm PDT 
That's them! They're the ones!!! NT by FoK 06/17/2003, 10:07am PDT 
For all of you in Chicago that aren't under 17 and like DnB... by mrs. johnson 06/13/2003, 4:24pm PDT 
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