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Re: My mistake... by Also annoying, for them. 06/15/2003, 7:59am PDT
Lizard_King wrote:

FoK wrote:


It's not as if the curfew applies to adults, dumbass. It's not martial law, it's "Your kids shouldn't be walking the streets at 3 in the damn morning, but we can't expect you losers to control your kids unless we threaten you with impounding your car." It's family values! Didn't the Republican National Committee tell you to support those?


Bullshit. It's called "we don't want to bother with warrants or even a semblance of probable cause anymore". I don't believe slippery slopes apply except in very rare cases, but this is a clear cut violation of basic restraints on government power in and of itself.


Last time I checked (July 29, 2000, according to my MVR), the police didn't need a warrant to give out traffic violations, or jaywalking tickets. They aren't talking about arresting anyone: kid is out past curfew - police grab him, call his parents, parents get a ticket. Probable cause? I got your probable cause: you're walking around in the park at 3 in the morning.

(The MI law is actually an age-restricted driver's license: kids under 18 can't drive after midnight, I think.)

Holy Police State, Caped Crusader!

You know, I wasn't sure if I supported these laws, but now that I know you're against them, I'm sure.

FoK

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Chicago's curfew laws by Fullofkittens 06/13/2003, 9:19am PDT NEW
    How about going after actual criminals? by Lizard_King 06/13/2003, 11:57am PDT NEW
        An interesting idea! by Fullofkittens 06/13/2003, 1:13pm PDT NEW
            Even Giuliani didn't use curfews, AFAIK. by Lizard_King 06/14/2003, 12:41pm PDT NEW
                Yes, he did. NT by Chairman Mao 06/14/2003, 1:25pm PDT NEW
                    My mistake... by Lizard_King 06/14/2003, 1:50pm PDT NEW
                        Re: My mistake... by FoK 06/14/2003, 2:30pm PDT NEW
                            Re: My mistake... by Lizard_King 06/14/2003, 2:41pm PDT NEW
                                Re: My mistake... by Chairman Mao 06/15/2003, 2:04am PDT NEW
                                    Asshole American the stereotype? Or Asshole American some OMM character?NT by Lizard_King 06/15/2003, 12:21pm PDT NEW
                                        Long dead OMM celebrity. A Republican coffee drinker. NT by OMM historian 06/15/2003, 1:31pm PDT NEW
                                            I see. NT by Lizard_King 06/15/2003, 3:15pm PDT NEW
                                    No, I liked AA better by I need clarification 06/15/2003, 3:29pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: No, I liked AA better by Chairman Mao 06/16/2003, 2:33am PDT NEW
                                            Re: No, I liked AA better by I need clarification 06/16/2003, 3:08am PDT NEW
                                                Re: No, I liked AA better by Jhoh Creexul 06/17/2003, 10:44am PDT NEW
                                Re: My mistake... by Also annoying, for them. 06/15/2003, 7:59am PDT NEW
                                    Re: My mistake... by Lizard_King 06/15/2003, 12:19pm PDT NEW
                            Re: My mistake... by Lufteufel 06/15/2003, 1:59am PDT NEW
                                Re: My mistake... by FABIO 06/15/2003, 2:44am PDT NEW
                                    What if you have a credit card? -n-motherfucking-t- by Chairman Mao 06/15/2003, 2:52am PDT NEW
                                        then they bring you up on CHARGES! BWA HA HA HA HA! NT by FABIO 06/16/2003, 11:10pm PDT NEW
                                            *weeps uncontrollably* NT by the fun pun crowd 06/17/2003, 1:37am PDT NEW
        Re: How about going after actual criminals? by DidC0tMaSSiF 06/16/2003, 6:25am PDT NEW
            Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Fussbett 06/16/2003, 7:17am PDT NEW
                Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Choson 06/16/2003, 11:37am PDT NEW
            Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 12:28pm PDT NEW
                Actually by Entropy Stew 06/16/2003, 12:38pm PDT NEW
                    BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Chairman Mao 06/16/2003, 1:05pm PDT NEW
                        Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Entropy Stew 06/16/2003, 11:27pm PDT NEW
                            Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 11:10am PDT NEW
                                Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Chairman Mao 06/17/2003, 2:03pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 7:55pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Chairman Mao 06/17/2003, 8:09pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 8:34pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Chairman Mao 06/17/2003, 9:22pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: BUT ES, LK IS FROM THE GHETTO... by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 9:41pm PDT NEW
                                            Also by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 8:42pm PDT NEW
                Re: How about going after actual criminals? by FoK 06/16/2003, 2:56pm PDT NEW
                    Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 5:05pm PDT NEW
                        You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by You 06/16/2003, 5:21pm PDT NEW
                            Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 8:34pm PDT NEW
                                Newsflash: YOU HAVE VERY LIMITED RIGHTS TILL YOU'RE 18 NT by Entropy Stew 06/16/2003, 11:33pm PDT NEW
                                    TO AN EXTENT DETERMINED LARGELY BY YOUR LEGAL GUARDIANS by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 10:52am PDT NEW
                            Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by Ator 06/17/2003, 8:58am PDT NEW
                                Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by foogla 06/17/2003, 9:27am PDT NEW
                                    Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 10:09am PDT NEW
                                        No Shit. That's practically common knowledge. by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 10:56am PDT NEW
                                            Re: No Shit. That's practically common knowledge. by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 11:17am PDT NEW
                                                Pointing out something about Social Security by FoK 06/17/2003, 12:57pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: No Shit. That's practically common knowledge. by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:29pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: No Shit. That's practically common knowledge. by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:33pm PDT NEW
                                Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by Moab 06/17/2003, 10:34am PDT NEW
                                    Re: You are wrong! Look over there! (scurry, scurry) by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 11:03am PDT NEW
                                        yeah by Moab 06/17/2003, 12:42pm PDT NEW
                                            Ur no fun :( NT by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:33pm PDT NEW
                        Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Chairman Mao 06/16/2003, 5:35pm PDT NEW
                            Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Lizard_King 06/16/2003, 8:38pm PDT NEW
                                Re: How about going after actual criminals? by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 1:55am PDT NEW
                                    Re: How about going after actual criminals? by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 10:58am PDT NEW
                                        Yeah, but less grease. by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 11:19am PDT NEW
                                            Dunno. They don't exist 'round these parts or I'd be sure to ask. NT by Lizard_King 06/17/2003, 1:31pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: Dunno. They don't exist 'round these parts or I'd be sure to ask. by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 1:40pm PDT NEW
                                                    That's a common icecream ingredient, dumbshit.It even says so on the linked page NT by Entropy Stew 06/17/2003, 5:59pm PDT NEW
                                                        I never said it wasn't, genius. I just think it's interesting. Who knew? Not me. NT by I need clarification 06/17/2003, 6:25pm PDT NEW
                    Re: How about going after actual criminals? by E. L. Koba 06/16/2003, 10:54pm PDT NEW
                        That's them! They're the ones!!! NT by FoK 06/17/2003, 10:07am PDT NEW
    For all of you in Chicago that aren't under 17 and like DnB... by mrs. johnson 06/13/2003, 4:24pm PDT NEW
 
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