Forum Overview :: Operation: Hammer Time

Rape button got plenty of use in the 'court of public opinion' by Soma, from the adopted home of LOTR 03/20/2003, 10:03pm PST I understand the reasons for a war in Iraq for during the whole current 'crisis'. The logic to go to war is well publicized, the purposes are clearly stated SINCE LAST YEAR. The long term prospect of a free and democratic Iraq outweighs any short term suffering of Iraqis, so any self-respecting humanitarian must favour a war to remove Saddam Hussein. And given the track record of Security Council in helping oppressed people, a diplomatic solution to help Iraqis is clearly unlikely. The only way to help Iraqis is to remove Saddam Hussein and his cronies by force. Threat of Iraq providing WMD to terrorists can only strengthen the argument to remove Saddam Hussein. Yada yada yada, old news. This is what I know, a good argument for war, and I tell this to everyone who would listen. The only good argument against war that I've heard of is that, AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT people are not convinced of the good intentions, thus there may be a backlash against US & UK, and the whole Middle East may blow up. Scare mongering? Yes, but the prospect is real. Yet I have a feeling that most people will never be convinced. It is bugging me for a while. I'm not talking about French here. I'm talking about Joe/Jane Blogg in the street protesting against the war, and there are lots of them. Do they NOT want a free and democratic Iraq in the near future? Do they want a perpetually underdeveloped Iraq? No, they are just suspicious that the war is motivated by oil and oil only. No, 'suspicious' is not the right adjective. 'Fully convinced without a doubt' are the right words. Even IF the war is motivated by oil, then the argument to liberate Iraq clearly legitimates the whole war. Yet their unconfirmed suspicions are only confirmed by every denial from the US and UK government. There are plenty of good reasons to go to war, they just don't listen. WHY WHY WHY? Sometimes it really pisses me off to see logic and reason being gang raped once every twelve seconds.

Tony Blair needs a wheelbarrow for his balls. by SBDMT 03/18/2003, 7:15pm PST     I dunno how it got duped...but ignore the other one by Doh 03/18/2003, 7:28pm PST     Text of the speech by Diotallevi 03/18/2003, 8:06pm PST         Jesus, I wish Bush & co. could write/speak like that -nt- by Entropy Stew 03/18/2003, 8:45pm PST             Blair is more eloquent, but Bush is just as right by Diotallevi 03/18/2003, 8:55pm PST                 I've been hovering on the line since forever by Entropy Stew 03/18/2003, 9:27pm PST                     Re: I've been hovering on the line since forever by Diotallevi 03/19/2003, 8:21pm PST                         I admit the French veto-promise fucking pissed me off by Senor Barborito 03/19/2003, 8:26pm PST                         France by Bob Violence 03/19/2003, 8:36pm PST                             Re: France by Steve Lollerson 03/19/2003, 10:00pm PST                                 Re: France by Bob Violence 03/19/2003, 10:34pm PST                                 Re: France by foogla 03/20/2003, 7:54am PST                 Communication by Chemdem 03/18/2003, 10:02pm PST                 Re: Blair is more eloquent, but Bush is just as right by Zebco Fuckface 03/19/2003, 5:28am PST                     Blair HAD to score a home run, Bush had enough support already. by SBDMT 03/19/2003, 9:22am PST         Rape button got plenty of use in the 'court of public opinion' by Soma, from the adopted home of LOTR 03/20/2003, 10:03pm PST