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Report from the Game Developers Conference by I need clarification 03/11/2003, 4:21pm PST
Ray, of Light wrote:

I need clarification wrote:

Best Lecture: Tie between Jason Rubin of Naughty Dog whose "Next Generation Graphics: Who Cares?" speech both terrified and inspired all of us, the


Carmack has made comments to this effect before:

John's hunch is that eventually 3D hardware will be based on some kind of multiresolution representation, where the world is kept in a data structure that fundamentally supports rendering it in near-constant time from any viewpoint.
Voxels are one example of such a structure. John mentioned that he actually wrote a voxel renderer and converted an entire Quake 2 level to use it. It wound up being about 3 gigabytes of data! But he said that that's not actually that far off from today's [1998 --ed.] hardware capacity


Well, that's not exactly what Rubin was talking about, although Carmack's stuff about changing the way art is constructed could be one possible outcome of the shift in industry priority Rubin predicts. His point was the "bang for buck" increase we see with each iterative step up in hardware capability is becoming smaller and smaller, even as those iterations get larger and larger. For example, most people's reactions when they made the switch from NES to SNES or SNES to (3D0 to) PSX were along the lines of "OMFG! ROOFLE!!!" But these were relatively small steps technologically. When we made the leap from PSX to PS2, which was on the order of about 100-250 times the graphics processing power (based solely on the total number of triangles being drawn to screen on any given frame), the reaction from gamers was a bit more sedate. You can now play GT3A and if you squint your eyes and stand back a few feet from the TV, it looks like you're watching a tape of an actual car race. Same with Madden and the latest tennis games. What more can you do with the PS3 or XBox 2? You can probably bump up the poly counts on the cars, make the highlights on the players' helmets in Madden actually be reflections of real-world lights instead of fakes, and make Anna Kournikova's hair flow ever so realistically in the breeze as she blows another passing shot, but will those be better driving, football, or tennis games? Has the thread run out on those franchises? And also, you're going to spend a hell of a lot more money actually making the art for those, are you going to make it back when your target audience will already have the game, with just slightly less-perfect graphics?

So, where is the wow factor going to come from in TEH FUTURE OF VIDEO GAMES? Innovation was Rubin's answer, but what is that, and how do you do it, and how do you get a publisher to pay you to try and do it?

Anyway, these are questions for better minds than mine, which means better minds than anyone else on this board as well...

Ray, of Light wrote:

INC wrote:

the "martini" I was served in the lobby of the Fairmont on the last night of the conference (suffice to say it was warm, weak, and served in a plastic Gamespy cup).


Most hotels, these days, have little cookie-sheet sized window openings. FSJ is the only hotel I've visited in the last 10 years with windows you could open and throw yourself out of.


I broke one of those same windows my first night up there. I was given a room on the top floor of the hotel, much to my delight. The room, however, was so permeated with the smell of cigarette smoke (much to my dismay) that I began wonder if I was still in California, before realizing this was probably where the cattle from the Midwest stayed when they came to rustle up VC money for their latest harebrained idea. Trying to crack open one of those giant windows you're so fond of took it right off its rails and left it in a sort of skewed, drunken look (appropriate enough, given my state of inebriation at the time).

Ray, of Light wrote:

Most Gratifying Moment of GDC: A table full of some of the best programmers in the business laughing their heads off when I mentioned I'd read a post on a message board suggesting John Carmack was a "competent implementor."
This got separated from its pic, somehow.


Ray!



Being from Los Angeles, I only hang out with good-looking people.
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Report from the Game Developers Conference by I need clarification 03/11/2003, 12:29pm PST NEW
    Report from the Game Developers Conference by Ray, of Light 03/11/2003, 3:05pm PST NEW
        Report from the Game Developers Conference by I need clarification 03/11/2003, 4:21pm PST NEW
            Re: Report from the Game Developers Conference by Senor Barborito 03/11/2003, 9:10pm PST NEW
                Re: Report from the Game Developers Conference by I need clarification 03/11/2003, 10:12pm PST NEW
                    Re: Report from the Game Developers Conference by FABIO 03/11/2003, 11:01pm PST NEW
                        I always took that guy with the "Powerful Stroke" -nt- NT by Entropy Stew 03/11/2003, 11:03pm PST NEW
                        Re: Report from the Game Developers Conference by Fussbett 03/11/2003, 11:59pm PST NEW
                            Re: Report from the Game Developers Conference by FABIO 03/12/2003, 12:25am PST NEW
                                Hmdb! Hmdbdbdbmmm! by Fok, inside Binro's belly 03/12/2003, 12:41am PST NEW
                                    oops, Fussbett I ment NT by FABIO 03/12/2003, 1:37am PST NEW
                                Re: Report from the Game Developers Conference by Fussbett 03/12/2003, 12:41am PST NEW
                                    Re: Report from the Game Developers Conference by FABIO 03/12/2003, 1:36am PST NEW
                                        Re: Report from the Game Developers Conference by Fussbett 03/12/2003, 2:37am PST NEW
                                            Re: Report from the Game Developers Conference by FABIO 03/12/2003, 1:25pm PST NEW
                                                I can't tell if you're trolling me. by Fussbett 03/13/2003, 2:14am PST NEW
                                            Re: Report from the Game Developers Conference by Ray, of Light 04/29/2003, 11:01pm PDT NEW
                                                Now I see why your message seemed familiar, nm NT by Ray, of Light 04/29/2003, 11:06pm PDT NEW
                                                    I'LL STILL TAKE YOU TO THE MAT! by Fussbett 04/30/2003, 6:33pm PDT NEW
                                GTA3, Morrowind = Sandbox games by Senor Barborito 03/12/2003, 1:11am PST NEW
                                    Re: GTA3, Morrowind = Sandbox games by FABIO 03/12/2003, 1:39am PST NEW
                                        Mostly disagreeing by Entropy Stew 03/12/2003, 1:50am PST NEW
                                            Re: Mostly disagreeing by Damocles 04/29/2003, 1:26pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: Mostly disagreeing by FABIO 04/29/2003, 3:48pm PDT NEW
                                                    SNES vs. PS2 by Damocles 04/30/2003, 12:45pm PDT NEW
                                                        Re: SNES vs. PS2 by FABIO 04/30/2003, 5:59pm PDT NEW
    The gun, it is smoking by Entropy Stew 04/29/2003, 12:32pm PDT NEW
        Nice one, Stew. NT by Senor Barborito 04/29/2003, 12:50pm PDT NEW
            I'm like the entire Amazing Chan Clan all roled into one person NT by I need ToutSuite 04/29/2003, 12:53pm PDT NEW
                I suck at ators NT by Entropy Stew 04/29/2003, 1:22pm PDT NEW
                    Ever wonder why Chinese people have Chinese children? NT by Simpsons Reference Matrix 04/29/2003, 1:34pm PDT NEW
        Re: The gun, it is smoking by Crying Fag 04/29/2003, 8:50pm PDT NEW
            Re: The gun, it is smoking by I need clarification 04/30/2003, 6:53pm PDT NEW
                You are the wind beneath our wings by Entropy Stew 04/30/2003, 10:14pm PDT NEW
                    Like I said, you should stick to "Fag NT" NT by I need clarification 05/01/2003, 1:22pm PDT NEW
                        Type #2 NT by Entropy Stew 05/01/2003, 1:44pm PDT NEW
                    Re: You are the wind beneath our wings by Lufteufel 05/01/2003, 4:00pm PDT NEW
                Re: The gun, it is smoking by Mischief Shai-hulud 04/30/2003, 10:35pm PDT NEW
                    Sorry I disappointed you, MM. You've always lived down to my expectations. by I need clarification 05/01/2003, 1:20pm PDT NEW
                        Type #2 NT by MM 05/01/2003, 1:39pm PDT NEW
                Good explanations for all of these, btw by Senor Barborito 05/01/2003, 4:39am PDT NEW
                    I was in the #GA chat for a couple of weeks following the initial diaspora. by I need clarification 05/01/2003, 1:21pm PDT NEW
                        Yawn by MM 05/01/2003, 1:48pm PDT NEW
                            You don't need to tell us you have a blank stare, MM by I need clarification 05/01/2003, 2:25pm PDT NEW
                                You think you can out-troll me? Motherfucker, I'll string you along for days! by Mischief Maxx0r 05/01/2003, 6:04pm PDT NEW
                        No offense by Senor Barborito 05/01/2003, 3:51pm PDT NEW
                            Re: No offense by I need clarification 05/01/2003, 5:11pm PDT NEW
        Well that mystery is solved. by mrs. johnson 05/01/2003, 2:16pm PDT NEW
            Re: Well that mystery is solved. by Cabaret Voltron 05/01/2003, 2:21pm PDT NEW
                I don't know if I should be insulted or elated. Fuck you anyway. NT by mrs. johnson 05/01/2003, 2:35pm PDT NEW
            Oh shut up already. Fine, yes, you win and I lose more than anyone. Fuck you. NT by Senor Barborito 05/01/2003, 3:53pm PDT NEW
                You're paranoid, man. by mrs. johnson 05/01/2003, 5:46pm PDT NEW
                    Sir, my above post was also a joke. NT by Senor Barborito 05/01/2003, 5:57pm PDT NEW
                        Then let us laugh heartily together with two glasses of port. NT by mrs. johnson 05/01/2003, 6:21pm PDT NEW
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