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by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/11/2018, 6:54pm PST |
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Mischief Maker wrote:
My friends all had 486s and raved about this Doom game, but by the time I saved up enough paper route money to buy a computer of my own, it was a Pentium and Quake had already come out
I mean... Quake looked like shit. Quake still looks like shit. The industry had to make things look like shit so that eventually 3D games could look good, but they were asking us to go from:
This:
To this:
And from this:
To this:
I could have found a better Doom screenshot and a worse Quake screenshot. I hope you can take as a fact that Quake's graphics was jagged brown sludge and concede the point.
so I have zero nostalgia for cardboard cutout 3d engines and find this whole renaissance with things like Project Warlock and Ion Maiden baffling. I mean I played Dark Forces for the sake of the Star Wars license, but after Jedi Knight came out I never looked back.
Overload is a Descent game by the Descent people with Descent music and Descent level design, but running in a modern engine with modern interface improvements and I think it's better than Descent 2.
Why on Earth would anyone want to go back to engines where you can't look up and down properly?
I would have kept playing 2D games forever. I kind of still do, Akane is a 2D game that could have existed in 1996. I don't need a lot of what modern games offer. I hate crafting, I hate skill trees, I think that shit just draws out play time to check a box. I hate the lack of quicksaves. A large portion of the games released since Doom look and play like shit.* I don't need to look up because the simplicity of the controls is a feature! You like shoot 'em ups, it's the same sort of thing, man. I like that new Overload game too, I like new games made by 90s developers. But Romero can't and won't do that. He is still a good designers, some people just like working in an environment they are good in and if people are still interested, then cool.
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Here is a video of Sigil by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/11/2018, 7:22am PST 
I never had a 486 growing up. by Mischief Maker 12/11/2018, 5:54pm PST
Re: I never had a 486 growing up. by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/11/2018, 6:54pm PST
It's not the 2D graphics that make Doom great, it's the 2D gameplay. by Dream Cast 12/12/2018, 3:01am PST
Street Fighter vs. Virtua Fighter by Dream Cast 12/12/2018, 4:32am PST
Re: Street Fighter vs. Virtua Fighter by Entropy Stew 12/16/2018, 11:02am PST
Sure! It applies to every competitive game, to one extent or another. by Dream Cast 12/16/2018, 1:13pm PST
Re: Sure! It applies to every competitive game, to one extent or another. by Entropy Stew 12/16/2018, 9:24pm PST
I think we've both been making too many assumptions about each other. by Dream Cast 12/17/2018, 2:59am PST
Yeah, I was definitely generalizing by Entropy Stew 12/18/2018, 9:05pm PST
Oh, I forgot one by Entropy Stew 12/18/2018, 10:23pm PST
I'll defer to your expertise when it comes to Street Fighter. by Dream Cast 12/19/2018, 2:15am PST
An example of Doom exploiting its two-dimensionality: by Dream Cast 12/12/2018, 7:20am PST
Christ, those Quake screenshots look great. NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/12/2018, 11:36am PST
I bought the Sigil box by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/15/2018, 3:41pm PST
Showed up! by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/28/2019, 6:10pm PDT
How can I make my Quake look like that? NT by Ichabod 12/15/2018, 7:15pm PST
I stole those screenshots from Quaddicted.com by Dream Cast 12/16/2018, 1:46am PST
I may come off as indignant in this post. I'm just really passionate about Doom. by Dream Cast 12/17/2018, 7:41am PST
How do you feel about others of that time? Blood, Heretic, Duke 3d? NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/17/2018, 1:22pm PST
I like them! Not as much as Doom, but still. by Dream Cast 12/17/2018, 2:56pm PST
Forever in its thrall by DooM Floppy #3 12/17/2018, 8:37pm PST
I'll have my 90s shooter list for you soon. But yes, Doom was #1. by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/18/2018, 6:51am PST
Re: I'll have my 90s shooter list for you soon. But yes, Doom was #1. by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/18/2018, 1:25pm PST
He must've seen the ram signal in the sky because he just started rambling. by Dream Cast 12/18/2018, 5:56pm PST
Is Magic Carpet a shooter? by Entropy Stew 12/18/2018, 10:33pm PST
Re: Is Magic Carpet a shooter? by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/19/2018, 5:13am PST
Re: Is Magic Carpet a shooter? by Roop 12/19/2018, 7:25am PST
I don't recall liking Hexen very much, either. by Dream Cast 12/21/2018, 4:04am PST
My memory of Hexen: "This is too dreary and ugly to be a wizard battle game." NT by Fullofkittens 12/21/2018, 6:45am PST
Is there any modern FPS with Doom’s gameplay? by Blackwater 12/19/2018, 12:46am PST
There are some! by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/19/2018, 5:21am PST
Cool. That is very Doomy. by blackwater 12/19/2018, 4:24pm PST
Does Doom (2016) count? by Entropy Stew 12/20/2018, 6:25pm PST
If nuDOOM counts, then so does Shadow Warrior 2, give that a looksee. NT by Mischief Maker 12/20/2018, 7:20pm PST
Re hitscan: THIS IS HOW YOU END UP WITH COVER SHOOTERS NT by Entropy Stew 12/20/2018, 6:16pm PST
I've been enjoying this thread so much I hate to clarify... by Mischief Maker 12/17/2018, 8:57pm PST
I like this video too. 25 years of Doom by Ichabod 12/11/2018, 8:54pm PST
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