Forum Overview :: Starcraft II: Heart Of The Swarm
 
Before this thread went off the rails... by blackwater 11/22/2014, 12:24am PST
It was actually kind of interesting.

I used to play starcraft 2 a bunch when it first came out and a bunch of my friends were playing. Every now and then, I still watch a few Starcraft 2 games on Youtube. The last time I did this was when I got the flu. I didn't want to move out of my chair, so I just called up some starcraft games on the TV.

Well, first of all, I think Blizzard has done a lot to balance things. SC2 is probably one of the most balanced real-time strategy games out there. Partly it's because the competition is so lame (medium tanks in total annihilation, anyone?) And partly it's because who other than Blizzard keeps working on an RTS for more than a year or two? Most RTS games are popular for a year or two, and then fade. In that case, the company doesn't have an incentive to keep balancing things once pro players figure out how to min-max.

If Toss really was overpowered, we wouldn't see so many pro players choose another race. And Blizzard would step in to nerf it.

BUT. My general sense of things is that Zerg / Terran / Protoss have different strenghts which may unbalance a given map or scenario. It's really almost impossible to win against a good ultra-late-game Zerg. Infestors with fungal growth is a really hard thing for either Terran or Protoss to counter. If you are Terran, you can bend over and kiss your ass goodbye once Infestors drop... unless you have the micro of a god, and you can tell each individual unit what path it should follow. Even then, the chances are not good. If late-game Zerg wants to seriously go air, Protoss does not have any cost-effective counter other than ground units.

Terran dominate the mid game, but don't get very much in the late game. The ideal terran just launches a ton of harassment in the midgame-- as many simultaneous attacks as possible-- and tries to win before the late-game arrives. If the lategame does arrive, and the enemy is Protoss or Zerg, the odds are not good for the Terran.

Protoss is probably the easiest race for a newbie to win with. But I wouldn't say they are OP... definitely not. Maybe this will change in the latest expansion, but they used to have the fewest effective harassment options. You're kind of limited to moving around your big clump of units, trying to put out fires started by the enemy. So really you want to force the enemy into a straight battle when you're protoss, which is kind of the way I imagine Blizzard wanted to balance it (Protoss are the "honorable" ones?)
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I'm actually looking forward to Legacy of the Void by fabio 11/14/2014, 10:52pm PST NEW
    Re: I'm actually looking forward to Legacy of the Void by pinback 11/15/2014, 4:08am PST NEW
        Re: I'm actually looking forward to Legacy of the Void by Entropy Stew 11/15/2014, 4:31am PST NEW
            Right. Meanwhile... by pinback 11/15/2014, 5:03am PST NEW
                Sagat wasn't overpowered in Street Fighter 4 because the best player picked Ryu NT by Worm 11/15/2014, 11:23am PST NEW
                    I think you're trying to make a point there, and I think it's a bad one. NT by pinback 11/15/2014, 11:31am PST NEW
                        TIGER SHITPOST NT by YOU LOSE 11/15/2014, 3:16pm PST NEW
                    To be fair, Ryu was like #2 on the vanilla tier list by Entropy Stew 11/15/2014, 3:23pm PST NEW
                Re: Right. Meanwhile... by fabio 11/15/2014, 11:55am PST NEW
                    AHHHH FABIO OP! NT by end thread please 11/15/2014, 12:50pm PST NEW
                It's a funny video, pinback. I just posted a funny video. That's all it is NT by Entropy Stew 11/15/2014, 3:11pm PST NEW
                    I enjoyed it. Been watching Starcrafts since the early days. Thank you. NT by pinback 11/15/2014, 3:19pm PST NEW
            Before this thread went off the rails... by blackwater 11/22/2014, 12:24am PST NEW
                This is all correct. by pinback 11/22/2014, 7:08am PST NEW
                Re: Before this thread went off the rails... by fabio 11/22/2014, 8:48am PST NEW
                    Number of fabios who are a faggot for refusing to play me in SC2: STILL ONE NT by pinback 11/22/2014, 10:49am PST NEW
                    Are we playing the same game? by blackwater 11/23/2014, 9:37pm PST NEW
        Do you wonder why no one ever replies to you? by fabio 11/15/2014, 11:49am PST NEW
            Re: Do you wonder why no one ever replies to you? by Kenji Carter 11/15/2014, 11:52am PST NEW
                Care to discuss why? by fabio 11/15/2014, 1:22pm PST NEW
                    It's like, a thing that is obvious, that it wastes our time to explain to you wh NT by y it is a fact here. Idiot. 11/15/2014, 1:58pm PST NEW
                        On mobile atm. Didn't write this one. Don't agree with it. NT by Kenji Carter 11/15/2014, 2:13pm PST NEW
                            Anonymous posting causing stress NT by YET AGAIN 11/15/2014, 3:19pm PST NEW
                    I can by Mysterio 11/18/2014, 8:35am PST NEW
                        Re: I can by Mewling #GG Manchild 11/18/2014, 9:58am PST NEW
                            league/a/s/l?? NT by pinback 11/18/2014, 12:37pm PST NEW
                        I could be wrong by fabio 11/18/2014, 8:15pm PST NEW
            Also I don't care why nobody replies to me. by pinback 11/15/2014, 3:21pm PST NEW
                Mister Pinback? Please dont destroy this site. It's my home. NT by A Boy of Five (it's cold out) 11/15/2014, 4:14pm PST NEW
            We can't all be a dashing raconteurs and bon vivants like you, Fabs by #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism 11/18/2014, 3:51pm PST NEW
                Women: a sex so weak they're driven out of a profession by impotence. NT by Worm 11/18/2014, 6:26pm PST NEW
                    Fuck. You got him THAT time, but surely next time this guy will be smarter tha NT by Mysterio 11/18/2014, 7:34pm PST NEW
                Zseni detector: 32% probability by fabio 11/18/2014, 7:56pm PST NEW
                    But the GamerGate scum just don't disagree with people like Anita by #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism 11/18/2014, 11:33pm PST NEW
                        Take it as a compliment, 'trops. The troll's being forced to try harder. by Mischief Maker 11/19/2014, 5:12am PST NEW
                            lets not scare him away now NT by WITTGENSTEIN 11/19/2014, 11:36am PST NEW
                                Why not? It's probably jsoh, anyway. NT by Mischief Maker 11/19/2014, 12:59pm PST NEW
                        I'm not sure I can disagree that Twitter is torture by Roop 11/19/2014, 5:25am PST NEW
                            Does every base here have to be about the same stupid shit now? by pinback 11/19/2014, 5:38am PST NEW
                                Jolt Country posters are racist against Caltrops. NT by Mischief Maker 11/19/2014, 5:39am PST NEW
                        Torment! by The Nameless One 11/19/2014, 5:40am PST NEW
                        That "torture" is Anita's fucking paycheck, moron NT by Eurotrash 11/19/2014, 5:53am PST NEW
                        "Your GG pals" NT by You are a child. 11/19/2014, 6:47am PST NEW
                I will defend your right to say this! by Souffle of Pain 11/19/2014, 2:16pm PST NEW
                    Literally The Only Way To Get This Base Back On Topic by pinback 11/19/2014, 6:14pm PST NEW
                        fabio, play pinback in Starcraft 2. Come on. NT by The Nameless One 11/19/2014, 8:07pm PST NEW
                            Charlie Brown should play football with Lucy by fabio 11/19/2014, 8:46pm PST NEW
                                Re: Charlie Brown should play football with Lucy by The Nameless One 11/19/2014, 9:18pm PST NEW
                                    That's what his dad shoulda done OHHHHhhhhhh NT by pinback 11/20/2014, 4:03am PST NEW
 
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