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Re: Couple things by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 03/08/2014, 9:40pm PST
fabio wrote:

I'm pretty sure a wife would be equally upset if her husband cheated with another woman regardless of how much he spent on her.


You'd be surprised how many "arrangements" are tacitly agreed to and only fall apart when the man starts spending too much money/time on his new girlfriend.

fabio wrote:

Have you met many women who have no girlfriends? They tend to be that way because nobody can stand being around her unless they want to fuck her.


MM is arguing that this is a result of women shunning and shaming, not the cause of it. There's as much variation in personality types among women as there is in men. If a woman is the type of person that doesn't like most people (a Caltrops-type, let's say), she's going to have a far more difficult time in same-sex socializing than a male who doesn't like most people, thanks to the increased social pressure on women to join and conform.

fabio wrote:

Have you met many total sluts? They tend to be unstable messes.


You're saying the unstable mess leads to sluttiness, when it might be the other way around: a woman enjoys NSA sex, the people around her find out, and she can't deal with the social repercussions because she's been conditioned by society to derive her entire self-worth from the approval of others.

fabio wrote:

I don't think you've been watching much news if you think celebrity being destroyed by sleeping around only applies to women.


Only if you're married. John Mayer is the most popular white guy in the history of white guys. (Isn't he? I don't know who keeps track of this stuff.)

fabio wrote:

Why has nobody mentioned the simple fact that men are more reliant on charm and a sense of humor to get laid?


That's an oversimplification, I think. The kind of humor that appeals to women -- conspiratorial, cutting, transgressive-to-say-but-not-so-transgressive-to-laugh-at -- is a limited subset of the broad range of humor men find enjoyable. Or to put it another way: if you're funny in a slapstick, Three Stooges way you're not going to get laid much.

So it's charm over sense of humor: the ability to intuitively sense a person's boundaries and press riiiiight up against them without going far enough to make them uncomfortable. You're absolutely right in that there is far more competitive pressure on men to develop an actual personality than there is on women, though. Lots of dudes don't even like a personality on their women. Gets in the way, they say.

This also makes me think of that Belle Knox thing. She says that "doing pornography fulfills her" but she wants her "privacy respected" -- she wants all the benefits but none of the burden. She wants the respect afforded to any given woman off the street, but everything she does tells us that she doesn't even view herself as deserving of that respect.

You know why men don't respect porn stars specifically and sex workers in general? It bears repeating:



You have decided to enter an industry where literally any female is qualified and employable. Rather than build yourself up, distinguish yourself, improve yourself, develop and hone marketable skills, rather than devote time and effort towards developing inherent worth not derived from a biological quirk of nature, you have decided that you are literally nothing more than a series of holes to be used. That's it. Fungible and replaceable, no appreciable difference from the series of holes on any other female.

This is the decision about your path in life that you've made. And you want me to respect you? Fuck outta here. Only an 18 year old could have that kind of arrogance.
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Autistic rambling inspired by a still-progressing Twitter slapfight by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 03/08/2014, 6:03pm PST NEW
    Context by WITTGENSTEIN 03/08/2014, 6:40pm PST NEW
    I agree and wish to elaborate further by Mischief Rainman 03/08/2014, 8:00pm PST NEW
        Couple things by fabio 03/08/2014, 8:47pm PST NEW
            Re: Couple things by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 03/08/2014, 9:40pm PST NEW
                Re: Couple things by skip 03/09/2014, 3:23am PDT NEW
                    Re: Couple things by Mischief Rainman 03/09/2014, 10:10am PDT NEW
            Re: Couple things by Mischief Rainman 03/09/2014, 10:27am PDT NEW
                So your basis for all of this is by fabio 03/09/2014, 3:45pm PDT NEW
                    STOP SKIMMING. by Mischief Maker 03/09/2014, 5:08pm PDT NEW
                        You're really losing it here by fabio 03/10/2014, 1:53am PDT NEW
                            Obvious trolling is the last refuge of a lost argument. I win! NT by Mischief Maker 03/10/2014, 6:31am PDT NEW
                                You're now a living troll police comic by fabio 03/10/2014, 11:35pm PDT NEW
                            Fabio by His argument is valid 03/11/2014, 12:11am PDT NEW
                                Stubbornly sticking to snap judgments isn't exactly out of character for Fabio. NT by MM 03/11/2014, 8:04am PDT NEW
                Re: Couple things by Creex-my-bine 03/11/2014, 12:07am PDT NEW
        I'm glad SOMEONE is thinking ahead to the post-procreational society. NT by Dr. Herbert Clonus 03/08/2014, 9:06pm PST NEW
        Re: I agree and wish to elaborate further by Mysterio 03/09/2014, 12:59am PST NEW
            This is me btw (not a coward just clumsy) NT by Vested Id 03/09/2014, 1:05am PST NEW
            Half of MM's post was talking about the pressure on women not to slip up. by Last 03/09/2014, 11:58am PDT NEW
        It's not about the dollar amount as much as her boundaries. by Last 03/09/2014, 12:12pm PDT NEW
            Re: It's not about the dollar amount as much as her boundaries. by Mischief Maker 03/11/2014, 6:36pm PDT NEW
                Right, historical context. I still think you are focusing too much on dollars by Last 03/15/2014, 11:36am PDT NEW
                    Not dollars, PAYMENT. by Mischief Maker 03/15/2014, 1:25pm PDT NEW
                        So if not for kyriarchy, more chicks would fuck more losers NT by Mysterio 03/15/2014, 10:35pm PDT NEW
            Fucking autists in this thread. by Oom Shnibble 03/28/2017, 12:20am PDT NEW
        Crosspost by Mischief Hacker 03/14/2014, 10:04am PDT NEW
            Sex and the City was in no way progressive for any women's cause. by Fullofkittens 03/16/2014, 4:59am PDT NEW
    Remember tipping threads? They're useless until waitstaff chime in. by Fullofkittens 03/16/2014, 5:02am PDT NEW
        And just like a tipping thread, the expert opinion would be discarded as self- NT by Serving (no pun intended) 03/16/2014, 6:33am PDT NEW
            Don't forget, in "the war of the sexes" we're the enemy. Can't give us intel! NT by Mischief Maker 03/16/2014, 7:06am PDT NEW
        argumentum ad hominem by Mischief Maker 03/16/2014, 6:55am PDT NEW
            A year and three months later, you're on. by serial malcontent 06/20/2015, 4:58pm PDT NEW
                Won't happen. by Mischief Maker 06/20/2015, 5:26pm PDT NEW
                    That was a flippant remark on my part. She's already pretty disinterested. NT by serial malcontent 06/21/2015, 12:29pm PDT NEW
                        Maybe we can change the background color to pink? NT by Worm 06/21/2015, 1:45pm PDT NEW
                            From purple? There's really no point. NT by serial malcontent 06/21/2015, 6:29pm PDT NEW
        I am surprised that there hasn't been a girl that has shown up in order to be by Mysterio Lollerson 03/25/2017, 9:21pm PDT NEW
            We had some, the cables drove them off. NT by The Happiness Engine 03/27/2017, 4:12pm PDT NEW
 
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