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by Last 04/15/2011, 7:48am PDT |
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Mischief Maker wrote:
And Achievements being some huge evolutionary step above scoring? What do you have to do to get achievements besides grind? Get a certain score? Achievements are just your high scores viewed through a very blurry lens.]
Achievements are almost never about score. They are usually given out for either progressing through the story, doing a tricky thing, or doing a normal thing well.
The main benefit of an achievement over a top score is that Achievements indicate when a player is above a certain skill threshold while a top score can only be judged against the top player in the world. Beating a stage and getting a gold star feels good! It means "Congratulations, you did a good job there." Beating a level but seeing that you are still only ranked #84,900 in the world by score feels shitty. It means "Who cares, what you just did is shit compared to everyone else." Hell, even getting ranked #13 in the world is still shit.
Another advantage of achievements over top score is that achievements can indicate that a player has accomplished something unusual or difficult. If the only metric is score then there's little way of showing that you once took out a boss with only proximity mines, or that you once kicked a field goal that hit the crossbar. I'm maybe the two millionth best player in TF2 but one time I got a headshot on a cloaked spy and I can prove it. Again, that kind of thing feels good. In addition, if you want to give out achievements for high scores then feel free. If you want to record unusual tricks with a top score then I hope you like doing arithmetic.
Thirdly, achievements can carry over from one attempt to the next. While you are practicing/playing a game you can see that not only are you getting better at playing but also even your failed attempts still count for something. In L4D, no matter if I fuck up terribly, I'm still making some progress towards the 'kill 53,595 zombies' achievement. That feels good. With top scores, if you get a billion points one time and 999,999,999 the next, that second attempt is worth a pitcher of spit (only useful for pushing your brother's entries off the top ten list).
In conclusion, if you are suggesting that top scores alone are more rewarding than achievements then you are wrong, and "correcting" me by pointing out the NES doesn't take quarters is something a ridiculous cunt would do. |
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Why Americans don't 1 Credit Clear Shmups and other Arcade games. by Mischief Maker 04/12/2011, 7:33pm PDT 
So I check back and you're still doing this by fabio 04/12/2011, 8:07pm PDT
Re: So I check back and you're still doing this by Mischief Maker 04/13/2011, 4:19am PDT
Just saying your energy is better used elsewhere by fabio 04/13/2011, 1:18pm PDT
You only hated BWR. You loved Cho Ren Sha 68K and you hated Ikaruga, too. by Mischief Maker 04/13/2011, 5:40pm PDT
See, right here by fabio 04/13/2011, 7:19pm PDT
Re: See, right here by Mischief Maker 04/14/2011, 1:47am PDT
Re: See, right here by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/14/2011, 9:13am PDT
Raiden II (as half of The Raiden Project) was a PS1 launch title in '95. by You're thinking of Raiden III. 04/14/2011, 10:36am PDT
are you really comparing Geometry Wars to that awful game you forced upon us? by Worm 04/14/2011, 12:17pm PDT
Re: You only hated BWR. You loved Cho Ren Sha 68K and you hated Ikaruga, too. by Bananadine 04/14/2011, 11:53am PDT
Shmup Mastery: Like being crowned Hackeysack champion NT by You big faggot 04/13/2011, 9:36am PDT
More like beating your time on Rubik's cube (feet only, blindfolded). by Last 04/13/2011, 10:45am PDT
yeah this by fabio 04/13/2011, 1:02pm PDT
Re: More like beating your time on Rubik's cube (feet only, blindfolded). by Mischief Maker 04/13/2011, 4:40pm PDT
Also, 1CC means "One Credit Clear." You don't have to put quarters into an NES NT by to play Zelda. Mischief Maker 04/13/2011, 5:22pm PDT
Re: More like beating your time on Rubik's cube (feet only, blindfolded). by fabio 04/13/2011, 7:08pm PDT
How is it MM has a PC that can store gigabytes of pornography but not run WOW? by Not Quetinbec 04/13/2011, 9:19pm PDT
Re: More like beating your time on Rubik's cube (feet only, blindfolded). by Last 04/15/2011, 7:48am PDT
I would play your jap games, but I feel like they give me small seizures NT by Mysterio 04/13/2011, 6:35pm PDT
Re: I would play your jap games, but I feel like they give me small seizures by Mysterio 04/13/2011, 6:38pm PDT
The closest you're going to get is probably Raiden II, with its toothpaste laser by Jerry Whorebach 04/13/2011, 9:09pm PDT
That's a cool laser right there. NT by Gutsby 04/14/2011, 10:36am PDT
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